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Does anyone have any info about an Amtrak diner which is sitting on a siding next to a factory in Griffith, Indiana? I believe it is the same diner that was used as an ice- cream parlor in Lansing, Illinois (10 miles northwest) back around 1980 or so. Jeff Kocar, from this site, believes that it is named "Birmingham." It was built as a 36-seat dining car by Pullman-Standard in 1950 for the Atlantic Coast Line Railroad. Does anyone know who owned it back in the late 70's/early 80's, and/or who owns it now? And maybe how it got to be where it is now, a history so to speak. Thanks for any help. Ski
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Couple of questions: Are you sure of the original name? Aer you sure of the original heritage?
The Frisco had a pair of Diner Lounges named Birmingham and Springfield that were used on the Kansas City-Florida Special. These were six axle cars that I believe to be old heavyweights that were moderinzed by the application of fluted siding, sealed windows, except in the kitchen, and a paint job to math the streamlied equipment. Have no idea when, or if they were the only two, but they were running between Springield and Birmingham in the late 1950's early 1960's until the train was discontinued or lost its diner, whichever came first. The Frisco was not noted for timekeeping southbound for Kansas City originating trains ariving at Memphis, but that was when on time was defined as ON TIME. Late seldom exceeded 2 hours. The train was through with Southern, but by 1961, Southern did not have a diner on the Birmingham to Atlanta segment. In fact, they effectively killed the train in about 1965 by discontinuing it south of Atlanta. An adjustment of the Royal Palm schedule would have allowed through service to be maintained, but by that time, their entire interest appeared to be to kill the service.
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