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Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
 
Ask me, and I wouldn't get too excited, but look what The New York Times reports today:

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Posted by Jerome Nicholson (Member # 3116) on :
 
Well, let's go with this and talk about which three routes, if any, that Amtrak: (A) wouldn't mind shedding
(B) might be better served by IP or some other operator.
I'm thinking the three triweekly trains; Sunset Limited, Texas Eagle, and Cardinal.
Or perhaps one daily - the City of New Orleans.
 
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
 
Maybe Iowa Pacific would be interested in operating a new Gulf Wind...... that being an LD route that Amtrak clearly didn't mind shedding.
 
Posted by palmland (Member # 4344) on :
 
GBN, now that is a fun proposition, if highly unlikely to ever happen. But, playing the game-

I looked at Amtrak performance reports Jan. thru August. The big losers (in total dollars -millions, not per passenger mile where the triweekly trains shine):

CZ- $58.9
EB- $53.6
SWC- $51.4
CS- $45.5
(figures are fully allocated but ranking the same for operating loss)

If I was Joe Boardman I would be happy to see this cash drain off the books. But who would be crazy enough to want to take this on, presumably with the help of significant subsidy? As a railfan, it would be fun to see what IP would do but don't think they have the resources to handle it. Who else? How about Mr. Branson who seems to like dabbling in transportation ventures in the U.S. be it rocket to space or customer friendly airlines. So my vote would be Virgin CruiseTrain.

And of the four, I'd pick the EB, CZ and CS. This links the routes at both ends and also has arguably the most marketing potential with their scenic routes.

If this happens, everyone can buy me a steak dinner in Chicago. If I'm wrong, I'll buy the beer.
 
Posted by TBlack (Member # 181) on :
 
I think the significant phrase is:
"if the companies can show that it will cost taxpayers less than trains operated by Amtrak." So, I'm with Gilbert, don't get too excited about this.
Tom
 


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