The Journal reports that "Trump '24" has already begun.
I can see it now; it's January 20, and out in the Rose Garden at about 1130, Trump will announce to a maskless, "socially packed" gathering his Presidential candidacy for 2024. He will then have a "meet and greet", followed by an 1157 boarding of Marine One, and an 1159:45 "lift off".
The whole thing will be simulcast while Kam and Joe take their Oaths.
Lest we forget, he's a Showman first and foremost.
Finally, his "letter to Joe" will simply say "don't waste taxpayer $$$ redecorating this place. I want it just the same when I come back".
Posted by Jerome Nicholson (Member # 3116) on :
And at 12 noon the copter will land the EX President in a lot where the New York DA agents will be waiting to take their prisoner.
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
I expect Trump for all his visible crudities will act with much more grace than Biden/Harris and the anti-Trumpers.
quote:Originally posted by Jerome Nicholson: And at 12 noon the copter will land the EX President in a lot where the New York DA agents will be waiting to take their prisoner.
In your dreams. He will go to Dulles where he will get on his own plane and fly to Florida. Like the impeachment hearings which first made Biden's corruption visible despite all the media lack of coverage, the Dims do not want to go after Trump because of how it could backfire on them. Trump did not in any form or fashion enrich himself off the office, whereas Biden has.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Mr. Harris, as we both know upon leaving service, Uncle Sam gave us a ride back to where we enlisted or were commissioned.
In that same vein, I think a Former President gets a ride at government expense to wherever he wishes.
Oh, and speaking of Trump's 757.
Posted by Jerome Nicholson (Member # 3116) on :
Mr. Harris, you expect Trump to act with more grace than Biden? In what universe?
Posted by Jerome Nicholson (Member # 3116) on :
Mr. Harris, you expect Trump to act with more grace than Biden? In what universe?
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
quote:Originally posted by Jerome Nicholson: Mr. Harris, you expect Trump to act with more grace than Biden? In what universe?
This one. Understand that Biden's grace is exactly that, an act.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Since we're addressing "grace" here, let us consider that Former Presidents customarily do not take "broadsides" at their successors until maybe Mid-Term; which usually is when "hitting the trail" to support one Congress member or the other.
Never has there been a Former President hitting the airwaves on the likes of "Fox and Friends" or letting loose a "flock of Tweets".
Anybody care to "place their bets" on what comes forth from Mar-a-Lago starting Jan 21?
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Given Trump’s psychological profile, it was inevitable that when he felt the walls of reality close in on him—in 2020, it was the pandemic, the cratering economy, and his election defeat—he would detach himself even further from reality. It was predictable that the president would assert even more bizarre conspiracy theories. That he would become more enraged and embittered, more desperate and despondent, more consumed by his grievances. That he would go against past supplicants, like Attorney General Bill Barr and Georgia Governor Brian Kemp, and become more aggressive toward his perceived enemies. That his wits would begin to turn, in the words of King Lear. That he would begin to lose his mind.
So he has. And, as a result, President Trump has become even more destabilizing and dangerous.
Will the South Lawn become the fields of Dover?
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
The Atlantic would probably reduce their page count by about 1/3 if they did not have anti-Trump articles. Barr I do not understand. Kamp a little more so. I definitely understand Trump's frustration. He has not enriched himself off the office, unlike the incoming has from his previous political positions. He has proven to be one of the most effective presidents in history despite an opposition that many times has been irrational. He has put the national interest first, again unlike the incoming's actions in the past. He understands basic economics, the understanding of which there is no evidence of on the part of Biden and cohorts.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Mr. Harris, I'll grant one thing about the Trump presidency. No way can it be called a "do-nothing".
I'm very fearful that Joe's presidency will be over in about two years. 25th Amendment, resignation, or death, I know not. I can only hope that he can give Kammy the same inclusion in his Presidency as he was afforded by Obama, with whom I think there was a sincere "Bromance". I doubt if I am the only reader of this material who is concerned about Joe's longevity; he will do the country a disservice if he "locks her up" and only lets her out for, say, the funeral of Generalissimo Patrice Lumumba from Darkest Africa who said on his deathbed "I love America".
Finally, ending a bit off-topic I think it "tore Obama apart" when he could not support Joe during '16 (he just might have won). You won't see it in writing, but I believe that there was a "deal" in place between "Barry" and Hillary. He would designate her for a top-tier Cabinet seat at which she would stay for the first term - and of course affording her "visibility" along the way. After that, she could leave to get ready for '16 and have his support through the Convention and on the trail. In return, she agreed not to run against him during '12.
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
quote:Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: I'm very fearful that Joe's presidency will be over in about two years. 25th Amendment, resignation, or death, I know not.
Knowing several people that have or are going through the mental decline that is Alzheimer's I am not sure he has 2 years of borderline competence left. From the same, I see him as covering a far greater level of mental decline than the public sees. Compare his recent public appearances and statements with those of say 5 years or more in the past to see what I mean. As I have said before, even if I agreed with his political viewpoints, which I don't I could not have voted for him as I see him as incompetent, and the requirements of the office far beyond Kamela Harris's abilities and understandings.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Did President Trump incite a riot in his speech? It starts at 3:28:01. Prior to that there were "warm ups", starting @ 1:12:00 by the likes with names such as Junior, Rudy, and Sydney. Also, a lot of '60's and '70's "rock" (sample: Journey performing "On and On" - the song playing when Tony Soprano met his "?").
Trump did use the word "demonstrate", but he also used the word "peaceful". I don't think the "warm ups" were quite so "discreet".
The Times has an article today analyzing the speech.
Fair Use:
.WASHINGTON — The speech that President Trump delivered to his supporters just before they attacked the Capitol last week is a central focus as House Democrats prepare an article of impeachment against him for inciting the deadly riot.
Mr. Trump had urged supporters to come to Washington for a “Save America March” on Wednesday, when Congress would ceremonially count President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s win, telling them to “be there, will be wild!” At a rally just before the violence, he repeated many of his falsehoods about how the election was stolen, then dispatched the marchers to the Capitol as those proceedings were about to start.
Here are some notable excerpts from Mr. Trump’s remarks, with analysis. .
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Hard to believe that as this is posted, there are now less than 28hrs remaining in the Trump presidency.
Looks like he and some acolytes will be the only attendees for his "farewell". He will get his 21 guns and "Hail to the Chief" at KADW.
Also, since he is planning a 9AM "wheels up", he will also be in flight aboard Air Force One, as distinct from SAM Special Airlift Mission, of the 747-200 varietal. He will still be POTUS on landing at KPBI, so I guess he will be "serenaded" by "Hail to the Chief" and be addressed as "Mr. President" (two points on which I'm unsure; can "Hail..." only be played by a military band, and is the salutation "Mr. Pres.." only for the sitting?).
Now to continue regarding Joe; I think he does have early onset Alz, and as such I think he will be gone by resignation in about thirty months (July '23). Congress will be back in Republican hands (party in power always loses after the first mid-term), so no further domestic agenda will move forth.
Joe will "have had it".
Hopefully, as I've noted before around here, that Kamala will be an active participant in any policy decisions, just as was Joe in any Obama decisions. In short, no Harry Truman moments; "we really have something that goes boom like that?"
Now even if Joe and Kammy do not have the "Bromance" with one another as he enjoyed with Obama, let it be recognized that especially with a 78yo, she is that "heartbeat away".
So to conclude positively, if Joe, with his extensive Speed Dial of foreign leaders can rebuild the bridges that Trump has worked to burn, I think his presidency will have attained some degree of success. If such be the case, the Wiki Notable Scholar Rate the Presidents survey will place POTUS46 in its Third Quartile (Lincoln is First; Obama Second, and Trump Fourth).
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
well, as said, Trump left with more grace than most expected of him, and IMHO, blaming him for the capitol riots was quite a stretch. Notice however, that no buildings burned down in these.
As to the impeachment, I can imagine few thing both more vindictive and more useless than this current impeachment action.
If anyone deserves impeachment it should be Biden who is legislating by decree, which is exactly the thing that is not supposed to happen in the US, but it appears that the legislature is simply rolling over and playing dead with this.
Posted by Gilbert B Norman (Member # 1541) on :
Mr. Harris, you do raise a valid point regarding Executive Orders.
I'm not sure where the authority arises for such. I guess that if they comprise congressionally empowered administration from the many agencies under the Executive branch, that's one thing. But if the EO's scrape up against what should be enacted legislation, that's something else