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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: [QB] Right on Patrick; and in the spirit of moving on, Amtrak fares, both Coach and Sleeper, are definitely market driven. Amtrak has developed a demand pricing model much the same as any airline. Fares and Accommodation Charges go up during peak periods; down during the slack. Overseas, there are quite a number of "econosnoozes' marketed, but rest assured, they are very spartan, i.e. one the Continental European roads call Couchettes that can have four, and even six, 'strangers' (same gender, absent a "slip up") snoozin' n' snorin' in the same Compartment. I once got "stuck' Madrid to Sevilla during 1990 when my Wagon Lit (First Class) Single Bedroom simply "wasn't'. I survived, and even though the three other fellows turned out to be "OK guys" (a Dutchman "terped" for me with the two Spaniards) and we all parted Sevilla with warm handshakes, it is "not exactly" an experience I'll be seeking out again in this life. While I already know others here will disagree, I do not think Amtrak has much if any market for "Econosnooze" sleepers. Many roads pre-Amtrak had them, and save one, the[URL=http://www.jefflubchanskycpa.com/CBQ4901MIAMI-JA19-4-044-18.jpg] Budd Slumbercoach[/URL], they all flopped. Besides, Amtrak already has an Economy Sleeper product - double occupancy of a Roomette, which IMO, is a single person accommodation that happens (wisely) to have two beds. But where Amtrak is remiss, I think, is that they sell the Roomette to the unwary just as if it was OK for two persons. I have met "never agains" on Auto Train (he a Cardiologist, she Chief of Nursing) who got "sold' (which to me was "conned") by an Amtrak reservationist with nary a word about Bedrooms. To have listened to them the night before (no BR's available for on-board upgrade) and at Sanford awaiting our autos, I think their S-Class Bennie had a better time of it than they. Regretably, I must acknowledge the "flop of flops" was on my MILW (employed 1970-81) with their [URL=http://www.trainweb.org/hiawatha/mountchittendenr.jpg] Touralux[/URL] cars that were built new for Economy service. Most other roads assigned cars, that otherwise would have been withdrawn from revenue service. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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