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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sfthunderchief: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by PullmanCo: [qb] It's this: " Organizations and movements matter more if they work as a lobby to put pressure on legislative bodies, whether its about a power plant, a scewy but emotional social issue, or a cause." If you don't gather horsepower to get your individual route, you will not get it. Oh, by the way: There is a finite quantity of equipment in Amtrak's fleet. Sooner or later, expansion means capital procurement, or no matter how much operating subsidy funding there is , there won't be a consist to operate on the subsidy. Further, much of the ancillary physical plant needed to run passenger service (coach yards, commissaries, stations) is gone. That also has to be factored into the cost of new or restored service. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yeah, I sat in on a teleconference with Amtrak and a couple of state DOT's last month. The equipment "poor" issue came up and the estimation is a necessary lead time of 28 months at a minimum for procurement of "additional", whether it is a new order or rehab. But Rome wasn't built in a day, and only a childlike railfan believes that an initiative can be orchestrated in 6 months to a year. The more mature recognize that rather than talk and dream, you better get off your butt and start working on it, prepare youself mentally that it will take several years to achieve, and that there will be political sabotage attempted at several points along the path (be prepared with a prevent defense). There is support and interest however, and high and mighty political types have invested in this to a degree. The current administration's days are numbered (281 to be exact), and we should be optimists-what chance is there if we believe in failure (might as well shut up, say and do nothing more). [/QB][/QUOTE]
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