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royaltrain
Member # 622
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Although it has been rumoured for some time, Via has announced on their website that The Canadian will convert to a four night schedule starting December 1. The website does not give the times, it only says that #1 will depart Toronto in the evenings of Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays so there are no changes on the departure days, but the arrival days are one day later into Vancouver and one day later into Toronto. The departure days from Vancouver remain the same, with an evening departure arriving in Toronto sometime in the morning. With the morning arrival into Toronto, it will probably save passengers from arriving very late such as 3:00 am. and being kicked off the train and finding your own way home after all the transit in Toronto has shut down for the night.
 
Gilbert B Norman
Member # 1541
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The Super Continental (whoops Canadian) is dead; long live the Continental Limited.
 
MontanaJim
Member # 2323
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i tried a booking for Dec 18th and it still gives me a departure time of 9:00 out of toronto.

ive always wanted to take the canadian and am seriously thinking of doing so this year. According to the timetable much of the trip in the mtns is in the dark. Wonder why they dont route the train through the mtns during daylight like Amtrak?
 
chrisg
Member # 2488
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That is because VIA turns the train the same day it arrives into Vancouver thus you miss the great Rocky Mountain scenery. You do have the Rocky Mountaineer who gives you a two day trip to either Jaspar or Calgary if you want to see
the mountains all in daylight,

Chris
 
royaltrain
Member # 622
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quote:
Originally posted by MontanaJim:
i tried a booking for Dec 18th and it still gives me a departure time of 9:00 out of toronto.

ive always wanted to take the canadian and am seriously thinking of doing so this year. According to the timetable much of the trip in the mtns is in the dark. Wonder why they dont route the train through the mtns during daylight like Amtrak?

Although it has been announced that The Canadian will be four nights effective Dec 1, Via's reservation system has yet to reflect the change, and still shows the old times.
 
MontanaJim
Member # 2323
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so will the train arrive in vancouver in the evening then? maybe it will have more daylight as it passes through the mtns?

Royaltrain or someone, what is the normal consist for this train, and how different is it from summer to winter? Someone said the coach dome car is in the front of the train, behind the engines? Ive also heard that in the summer, coach passengers do not have access to a diner. Is that true? If i travel, i will do coach all the way. im tough, i can handle it. Cant afford sleeper. id spend most of my time in the dome car anyway [Smile]
 
CN 6060 Fan
Member # 3093
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quote:
Originally posted by MontanaJim:
Royaltrain or someone, what is the normal consist for this train, and how different is it from summer to winter?

Here is the consist of this mornings #1 departing Toronto as reported on The Can-Pass-Rail list:

6412
6446
6436
Skyline 8509 D/H
Hunter Manor D/H
8605
8101
8141
Skyline 8507
Burton Manor
Draper Manor
Abbot Manor
Skyline 8510
Kent
Cornwall Manor
Thompson Manor
Douglas Manor
Chateau Closee
Chateau Papineau
Skyline 8501
Empress
Butler Manor
Hearne Manor
Grant Manor
Strathcona Park

Includes:

12 Sleepers (1 DH)
4 Skyline Domes (1 DH)
2 Diners
2 Coaches
1 Dome Observation
 
MontanaJim
Member # 2323
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thanks for the info. so do you know what the position of the coaches and Dome Observation (is that the one coach passengers can use) is in the train?
 
CN 6060 Fan
Member # 3093
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quote:
Originally posted by MontanaJim:
thanks for the info. so do you know what the position of the coaches and Dome Observation (is that the one coach passengers can use) is in the train?

Coach passengers would use Skyline Dome 8507 which is located directly behind the coaches (8101 & 8141)

The Dome Observation is the last car on the train, "Strathcona Park" and it's restricted to sleeping car passengers only.
 
David
Member # 3
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In the consist noted above, car 8605 is the baggage car, 8101 & 8141 are the coaches and 8507 is the coach-class Skyline car. The dining area will be in service when consists are this long. I was just speaking to a retired VIA service manager who is on the Canadian (not the above consist, but the previous run ex-Toronto) and he confirmed that the coach Skyline cafe is in service.

From my experience, there is sometimes room for coach passengers in one of the diners, but this isn't encouraged. You won't go hungry in the Skyline cafe, however. New menus started about a week ago and are not yet on VIA's Website, but you can see the most recent ones here:

http://www.viarail.ca/menu_repas/en_index_frame.html

Click on Trains 1 or 2 Comfort Class, then click on the Skyline cafe link.
 
SilverStar092
Member # 2652
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CN 6060: Where did you get the consist? Are they publicly available?
 
CN 6060 Fan
Member # 3093
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quote:
Originally posted by SilverStar092:
CN 6060: Where did you get the consist? Are they publicly available?

Members of the “Canadian-Passenger-Rail” YahooGroup regularly post consists to the list. Here’s another:

VIA #2 departing Vancouver last evening, May 4/08

VIA F40
VIA F40
VIA F40

Baggage 8609
Coach 8131
Coach 8107
Skyline 8511
Blair Manor
Elgin Manor
Brant Manor
Skyline 8510
Diner Emerald
Monck Manor
Bayfield Manor
Mackenzie Manor
Chateau Rigaud
Skyline 8512
Diner Palliser
Carleton Manor
Jarvis Manor
Stuart Manor
Banff Park
 
SilverStar092
Member # 2652
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Thanks for the consists! They are great and bring back many fond memories. Do you have a sense for which Park cars are currently actively being used? When they return to the Ocean for summer, I'd be interested in which are active as we will be riding it at the end of June....our first ride in the Renaissance cars but with much time in the Park car.
 



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