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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: [QB] Mr. Harris, with a December 1956 IC Public Timetable in hand, I note that #5 handled a Memphis TO New Orleans line (a 10-5) which was handled on #8, Creole, Northbound. At that time, the only Chicago-Memphis lines were handled on 7-8, Louisiane. A St Louis Memphis line was handled on #15, Chicksaw. Reviewing October 1962 IC PTT, the Pullman lines were "as I knew 'em" during my UofI days (as noted above, always happy to do with a few less suds at Kam's in exchange for a Parlor Car ride on the Panama). I cannot find any reference to a drop off from #5, Panama, at Memphis. Now regarding Mr. Harris' related thought as to why the only long distance daylight route out there was the City of New Orleans was simply (as both Messrs. Haithcoat and Harris knows far better than I) still a vestige of the Northern migration of African-Americans (various works of Studs Terkel well portrays the Socio-Economic conditions for the migration). Often the trip was from, say, Grenada MS, and not 'bumper to 12th St'(Central Sta was not a terminal - that was Randolph St or, whoops, Millennium Station in METRAese). Although the PRR and NYC did operate all-Coach trains, Trail Blazer and Pacemeker respectively, they were on overnight schedules roundly emulating those of the Broadway and Century. Returning to the City, even if there laws on the books saying segregation was outlawed, be assured it was in practice aboard the City. Depending upon UNOWAT, you were either directed to have a seat forward or rear of the Diner that was usually about 2/3rds through the consist towards the rear. There was also a Cafe car placed near the head for passengers who were "directed" to sit on that side of the Diner. The Obs-Lounge was essentially "off-limits' to the majority of passengers. Here's a consist of interest: http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=12524&p=165661#p165661 [/QB][/QUOTE]
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