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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: [QB] Yes, I have watched the TV series "Pan Am". In the episode relating to travel to Rangoon (what's it called nowadays?) and Jakarta, the producers certainly show their ignorance of the seniority system with references to how the "Captain' managed to override many senior First Officers (some script blubbering about "need some young blood"). However, if one wants to read a narrative of how a seniority system was usurped by an arbitration award, read applicable chapters of [URL=http://www.amazon.com/Skygods-Fall-Pan-Robert-Gandt/dp/0688046150] Gandt[/URL] that I cited elsewhere at the Forum with regards to the merger of the Pan Am and National rosters. However, during 1963, Pan Am was still flying high - the Skygods were not about to contemplate a merger with any domestic "cracker" airline at that time. But to one lacking knowledge of air transport industry affairs (I really don't much outside of Labor Relations - and that is only because the Railway Labor Ace covers airlines as well), I guess the production is "entertainment". But to give the producers credit for something, I understand that the approach to VHHH, Hong Kong Kai-Tak (now closed), was quite challenging and involved a 45dg Right turn while on 'Final' and doing so with IAS of about 145Kt. [URL=http://www.avsim.com/pages/0808/FlyTampa/The%20Iconic%20Runway%2013%20IGS.jpg] Approach plate [/URL]- VHHH Rwy 13: From the Flight Deck: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g-ArLYsloI&feature=related From airfans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtnL4KYVtDE Finally regarding Mr. Smith's comment with respect to B-737 varietals, a few years ago, I flew KORD-KSNA - and that is what United had assigned for that afternoon flight. All I could think 'can this thing hold enough gas for a non-stop?' [/QB][/QUOTE]
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