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Gilbert B Norman
Member # 1541
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Ask me, and I wouldn't get too excited, but look what The New York Times reports today:

New York Times

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  • Another provision is aimed at long-distance train routes that have long dragged down Amtrak’s profitability.

    The Northeast Corridor between Washington and Boston generates about $300 million in operating profits for Amtrak. But the company loses about $600 million a year on long-distance routes, according to a report by the Brookings Institution.

    A provision in the new bill would allow competitors to operate up to three long-distance lines if the companies can show that it will cost taxpayers less than trains operated by Amtrak. That could be a blessing for Amtrak, which has wanted to shed some long-distance routes but has been blocked by rural states loath to lose train service.

    Amtrak declined to comment on the provision.

 
Jerome Nicholson
Member # 3116
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Well, let's go with this and talk about which three routes, if any, that Amtrak: (A) wouldn't mind shedding
(B) might be better served by IP or some other operator.
I'm thinking the three triweekly trains; Sunset Limited, Texas Eagle, and Cardinal.
Or perhaps one daily - the City of New Orleans.
 
notelvis
Member # 3071
 - posted
Maybe Iowa Pacific would be interested in operating a new Gulf Wind...... that being an LD route that Amtrak clearly didn't mind shedding.
 
palmland
Member # 4344
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GBN, now that is a fun proposition, if highly unlikely to ever happen. But, playing the game-

I looked at Amtrak performance reports Jan. thru August. The big losers (in total dollars -millions, not per passenger mile where the triweekly trains shine):

CZ- $58.9
EB- $53.6
SWC- $51.4
CS- $45.5
(figures are fully allocated but ranking the same for operating loss)

If I was Joe Boardman I would be happy to see this cash drain off the books. But who would be crazy enough to want to take this on, presumably with the help of significant subsidy? As a railfan, it would be fun to see what IP would do but don't think they have the resources to handle it. Who else? How about Mr. Branson who seems to like dabbling in transportation ventures in the U.S. be it rocket to space or customer friendly airlines. So my vote would be Virgin CruiseTrain.

And of the four, I'd pick the EB, CZ and CS. This links the routes at both ends and also has arguably the most marketing potential with their scenic routes.

If this happens, everyone can buy me a steak dinner in Chicago. If I'm wrong, I'll buy the beer.
 
TBlack
Member # 181
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I think the significant phrase is:
"if the companies can show that it will cost taxpayers less than trains operated by Amtrak." So, I'm with Gilbert, don't get too excited about this.
Tom
 



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