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Message: HTML is not enabled. UBB Code™ is enabled.	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: [QB] No wonder Open Discussion has become the most active Forum around here at present. Those here who have taken "experiential rides" on Amtrak have learned such has evolved into, away from several Corridors, a highly inconvenient and unreliable "ride". That we discuss politics with a high degree of maturity and respect means we have something that few if any other sites can claim to have. As for myself, I don't know how much more of an independent voter there can be. My Presidential record to date is 7R, 7D, and 1I. The Independent - John Anderson - was during '80 when I simply "wasn't ready for Reagan". I was by '84, and happily voted for him at that time. I will NEVER throw "something mighty precious" away again. A wonderful long-standing friend, who I'm expected to see this coming weekend, in Social Services (Educator husband) and "doesn't know what a Republican is", once "threw her vote away". This was during '16 when Hillary lost the nomination to Obama. That year, she simply did not vote for President, but of course voted "down ballot". I pray she chooses not to do so again. I voted for Joe during '20; I did so to "bid 4NT at the Bridge table" (really haven't played since '76) and that Joe would be a "bring us together" unifier. First point; only a "time out" - the countdown has begun to when "he's back" - and I fear full of vengeance. Now so far as Joe; help the people who have been severely affected by COVID? Of course. Infrastructure? too many politicians have ignored it for too long. But I didn't sign up for any of the transformative social legislation Joe has proposed. I will not totally dismiss my Evangelical Sister's position that Obama is "calling the plays" on such. All I know is that any of the "sweeping" proposals Joe called for are "dead" and for that I thank the current "Senator Joe from WV". I'm confident that in the remaining nine months (my guess) of Joe's presidency, none of such will again be proposed. Finally again, Mr. Harris, the Scholars will place Joe in their Fourth Quartile, or otherwise "in the bottom eleven". [/QB][/QUOTE]