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Railway Cogeneration
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A new patent pending innovation was just recently filed on my behalf. It is a pneumatic system designed to exploit mass weight in motion converted to produce renewable clean electricity.
A feasibility study for RADS Roadway Air Displacement Systems was the 1st application researched and on a predominantly six lane freeway’s 22 mile corridor installed on US I-80, as much as 252,028,480" ^3 of compressed air per minute at a (MEP) Mean Effective Pressure of at least a 278.47 psi output rate can be accumulated. By pneumatic mechanical conversion of weight in motion at that operating pressure, more than 758 Megawatts of Electricity can be produced on demand, 24/7. A modified version is currently being designed to capture billions of tons of transitional kinetic energy from billions of tons of rail traffic in motion to make Amtrak completely self funding. California State mandates for renewable clean energy assures an additional utility contract terms income stream to make fares so cheep, no one will want to drive their cars where rail can access the same destinations.
The key physical applied theory that makes the energy from rail traffic without violating Newton's 2nd Law and not expend any more fuel than is already being used to transport passenger or freight, is gravity. When vertically aligned a state of opposing forces are transferred to a small CUID but large quantity of air compression cylinders actuated under freewheeling strokes from cog wheels mounted under coach car. The compressed air can be piped one way using check valves, then accumulated in storage tanks and later tapped on demand use by air driven motors coupled with generators to make electricity. Locate them near the tracks as close to sub stations as a means to connect output to the grid.

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I have no idea what you're talking about.
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I am not a physicist and am not particularly knowledgable in the areas of mechanical engineering. But I do know that in WWII torpedoes were powered by compressed air. I do know that there is or was a small company somwwhere in Colorado I believe that was working on a system to power cars (automobiles) using compressed air. The autos stored the compressed air in carbon fiber tanks, which are lighter and stronger than steel, thereby being safer and having the ability to hold higher pressures than steel containers. The kinetic motion of the car compressed air to be used for another trip. If more was needed you could use the external power (electric outlet) to compress air. I think that the inventors claimed this used far less power than charging batteries.

Compressed air systems need to be studied as a sensible and safe alternative to electric and fossil fuel systems. I have never understood why the media et al is so enamored with electric cars. The lithium batteries, in which the electricity is stored, are expensive, heavy, and very dangerous (lithium is perhaps one of the most toxic substances known). Another problem I have with the electric cars is that they have to be recharged, whether at home overnight or at "charging stations". The power consumption via the power grid that would occur if we had millions of cars recharging every 24 hours would be significant. We might have to build more power generating plants.

So, I hope that somehow more attention is given to this technology.

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I only have one comment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4

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quote:
Originally posted by PullmanCo:
I only have one comment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4

Hah hah!!! This is great!
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quote:
Originally posted by PullmanCo:
I only have one comment...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4

[Big Grin] How in the world did Chrysler bo under with such great technology ? [Big Grin]
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ROFL! VERY clever on Chrysler's part to do that! I first heard about the Turbo-encabulator a long time ago from a close relative, who had a great sense of humor. That video is the first I have seen of this amazing machine!

Smitty -- I am with you -- I barely understood what the OP was talking about, as I know very little about physics or mechanical engineering.

Whatever it is, if it is real and practical, I hope it succeeds.

FWIW, we will always need large federal subsidies, because our highway and underground utility infrastructure is far, far too expensive to repair and maintain without large sums of money from the feds. And this is very worth doing and spending that money on.

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The way I read is:
For the roads, install some sort of (presumably thin) pillow top on the road so that when a vehicle drives over it, it forces air through a generator, producing electricity. Quite how drainage, road maintenance, and road handling is affected is not clear.

For the rails, this just seems to be a regenerative device using the wheels in motion as the generator. Of course, this is going to slow down the train if it's coasting which kind of defeats the object - there's no such thing as free energy.

Anyway, that's my interpretation, rightly or wrongly. And folks, don't forget that "patent pending" does not mean that a patent will be granted. The majority of "patent pending" go straight to "patent rejected" on the first attempt. It can be *years* before one of the few successful patents gets approved.

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Railway Powered Cogeneration Systems

Based on the same pneumatic mechanical principals and key components incorporated in (ARC)’s American Roadway/Railway Cogeneration’s other iteration, RADS Roadway Air Displacement System, are essentially the same featured in (RPCS) Railway Powered Cogeneration Systems.

RPCS utilizes the same simultaneous mass weight in motion converted to Compressed Air Energy to produce highly efficient quantities of electrical power that generates it via a unique energy conversion design. Each one utilizes their respective by-product. In the normal day-to- day operation of our Nation’s massive and extensive railway train transportation system, by crisscrossing its landscape by rail, trains can realize these characteristics and benefits they both share in common.

In much the same way Combined Cycle Cogeneration produces more electricity with less fuel then conventional Power Plants. Here, two separate mechanical systems share the benefits of by burning fuel once and gets two uses in return. This substantial affect reduces fuel cost while producing two separate befits. Likewise, RPCS generates electricity with a negligible amount of additional fuel expended, if any ( I believe linear kinetic energy force cancels all of that potential energy loss). When engines pull train coach cars behind them at cruising speeds of 80 mph on straight sections of track, the fuel savings becomes greater. Just under the floor of coach cars rear sections is where RPCS’s is mounted. They create the gravity forces exploited to produce mechanical power force it transfers to a grid of small compressors installed under them and between the rails.

The key to avoid the typical pitfall of numerous inventor’s enthusiasm to exploit energy is their typical violation of the conservation of energy law, Newton’s Second. As a result of the physical law effects of gravity on an opposing vertically aligned force, RPCS has exploited this to do work and at the same time also cash in on transnational kinetic energy as well.

How this physical occurrence is adapted to RPCS is best demonstrated in the attached illustrations.

RPCS incorporates a Cog in Rack, sprocket type mechanical wheel set with each one having 8 cogs on its leading edge. By the force produced under each cog stepping from one compressor to the next vertically, each cylinder piston is driven like a nail downward to compress the air. This is like a typical cylinder type air compressor. Except in this case, no connecting rod is necessary. The free wheeling cogs generate force on the mating cylinder head at the point of their near vertical alignment. After a resultant vector analysis of RPCS’ translational kinetic energy impact is determined by an actual fuel mileage rate change calculation and then tested, RPCS’ efficiency benefit should then become more accurately apparent.

By association, one can easily visualize the translation of the RPCS effect into personal terms. Imagine yourself walking on a succession of bathroom scales with each one them buttressed one up against the next in a straight line. However, Instead of using you weight to move the needle on it to read your weight, you are actually pushing down on it to force a cylinder located just under the top of its deck to generate compressed air. Now, stop and think. Did you burn more calories walking on a concrete sidewalk to the corner newspaper stand this morning to get your news than you would have by walking there on weigh scale after weigh scale to the same destination?

Therefore, using basically the same piping and pneumatic components more completely described in the RADS parent Provisional Patent, a brand new way to harness clean energy becomes yet another potential means to increase transportation efficiency on a grand scale.

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All I know is that if I drive my 4 wheeler in deep sand or mud it takes a lot more power to go the same distance than if I'm on a cement road. I would think the same issue would apply to compressing air.
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What's the patent pending number? Searching for "railway AND cogeneration" only brings up 18 patents pending, none of which are vaguely related to this.

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Something that appears to be similar to this scheme was tried out in Israel in 2009 and does not seem to have, um, achieved traction.

See here.

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