Anyone know why the Sunsets have been losing so much time on the BNSF in Louisiana?? Todays #1(27) left NOL only 8 mins late only to be 1:46 down in Schriever then 2 and a half down in New Iberia. Is there track work or something going on? BNSF is the last company I would expect that would treat the Sunset poorly, they run everything on-time! Thanks in advance to who replys.
Posted by notelvis (Member # 3071) on :
I thought the Sunset operated on former Southern Pacific (now UP) rails all the way to New Orleans. If that's still the case, there is the cause of your delays in all likelihood.
Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :
Today I saw a MOW train pass by. Before, 3 hours of no activity maybe more. After the MOW, the parade started. Funny thing. I see trains with all NS engines, KCS/UP, CSX/BNSF, a lone TFM, NS/UP, that CN red engines, a few unmarked engines(red,blue,black, yellow non-UP), just about every combo you can imagine. Anyone know when BNSF started using the draw bridge. I thought that was UP and KCS only.
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
quote:Originally posted by notelvis: I thought the Sunset operated on former Southern Pacific (now UP) rails all the way to New Orleans. If that's still the case, there is the cause of your delays in all likelihood.
Yes, the Sunset still runs the former Southern Pacific route all the way, but it is not all now owned by Union Pacific. As part of the UP takeover of SP, they were required to give BNSF access to certain routes and cities, the one of particular interest for this area being access to New Orleans from Houston over the old SP route. GP35, this is why you see BNSF trains across the KCS drawbridge in Beaumont.
As part of this, the ex SP line between Iowa Junction (mp 205.4) and West Bridge Junction (mp 10.5) was transferred to BNSF ownership. West of Iowa Junction, the BNSF has trackage rights on the ex SP into Houston. For those that are light on knowledge of the names and locations of the various dry spots in the swamps of South Louisiana, here is where these points are: West Bridge Junction is the west end of the tracks leading to the Huey P. Long Bridge across the Mississippi River. The bridge and approach trackage is owned by the New Orleans Public Belt Railroad. Iowa Junction is 14 miles east of Lake Charles LA. It is where the former Missouri Pacific line that ran Little Rock AR - Pine Bluff AR - Monroe LA - Alexandria LA - Lake Charles crossed the Southern Pacific Sunset Route. The source of the name, Iowa Junction, I haven't the foggiest idea.
BNSF uses the name Lafayette Subdivision for this section of track, which is the same as that used by the SP. The UP also uses the same name for the part they kept, even though their part no longer reaches Lafayette. The speed limit on this subdivision is 70P/60F, however there are lots of permanent speed restrictions for curves, drawbridges, etc. There are 5 drawbridges in this section.
George
Posted by RRRICH (Member # 1418) on :
George - as usual, you are a true fountain of knowledge!!! I didn't know that BNSF now owns part of the UP on the Sunset route -- thanks for the info!!!!
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
My source is the BNSF Gulf Division Employee's Timetable of January 20, 2002. Also, various posts on another forum by a BNSF engineer talking about running trains on that line.
Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :
What about all NS engine trains. That means UP or another railroad is just using NS engines, right?
Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :
Estimated arrival: 5 hours and 19 minutes late.
As of the last report at 11:28 am at Houston, TX (HOS), it was running 5 hours and 13 minutes late.
Late again, so I'll get to see her from my office.
Posted by RRCHINA (Member # 1514) on :
Who handles the dispatching?
Posted by HopefulRailUser (Member # 4513) on :
In reference to the Sunset Limited #1(24) I can't find out when it got to LAX. The Amtrak site still shows the service disruption that occurred due to the derailment, etc. in Riverside County. Having one blank trip is ruining my impeccable statistics for the month of August. How can we find out the time it arrived on 8/27 (or the actual may have been 8/28, heaven forbid?)
Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :
Before I left, I checked the site. Amtrak in Beaumont for 1:17 pm. 1:17 came nothing. The parade was going on. At 2:45 a very very very slow long UP freight, 3mph tops, came chugging across the bridge. I said to myself, I bet Sunset is behind that train. Sure enough, Sunset was 10 minutes behind. UP did that on purpose.
Posted by SunsetLtd (Member # 3985) on :
quote:Originally posted by HopefulRailUser: In reference to the Sunset Limited #1(24) I can't find out when it got to LAX. The Amtrak site still shows the service disruption that occurred due to the derailment, etc. in Riverside County. Having one blank trip is ruining my impeccable statistics for the month of August. How can we find out the time it arrived on 8/27 (or the actual may have been 8/28, heaven forbid?)
Try typing #421. The eagle thru-cars that lists an arrival in LA.
Posted by George Harris (Member # 2077) on :
quote:Originally posted by RRCHINA: Who handles the dispatching?
NOPB between New Orleans Station and West Bridge Junction Yard limits West Bridge Junction to mp 14.8 controlled by BNSF ? ? Crossovers at mp14.8 controlled by UP dispatcher BNSF mp14.8 to Iowa Junction UP Iowa Junction and west thereof.
Posted by HopefulRailUser (Member # 4513) on :
Sunset, thanks for the tip to use #421, it worked and I found out it came in 9+ hours late.
Posted by Geoff M (Member # 153) on :
quote:Originally posted by gp35: UP did that on purpose.
Really? So you must have been standing behind the dispatcher when he did that then?
Geoff M.
Posted by gp35 (Member # 3971) on :
quote:Originally posted by Geoff M:
quote:Originally posted by gp35: UP did that on purpose.
Really? So you must have been standing behind the dispatcher when he did that then?
Geoff M.
I was kidding.
Posted by RRCHINA (Member # 1514) on :
Thanks Mr Harris for the dispatching info. Perhaps the multiple dispatching assignments have and effect on the fluidity.
Posted by HopefulRailUser (Member # 4513) on :
Here I am again with questions. I have noted on the train orders board that a washout which could not be fixed soon enough resulted in the #1(27) being terminated in El Paso and the passengers placed in buses. Where are they busing them? Los Angeles??? Are nightime accommodations set up for the people? They say once the line is repaired the equipment will deadhead to LA in hopes of turning around to be #2, I guess on Friday 9/1. Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by SunsetLtd (Member # 3985) on :
They bussed them to LA on Greyhounds and intermediate points west. Equipment sat here in El Paso till 10 this morning where it was put behind a Z train and high tailed it out of town. There was a MAJOR washout around Deming. El Paso's hurricane has returned and many residents are either fleeing town tonight early for labor day weekend, or hunting down sandbags to protect their homes. Expect Service Disruptions on #1 and #2 or severe delays. Just wanted to for warn you guys if the status shows up like that.
Posted by HopefulRailUser (Member # 4513) on :
How do they handle the overnights when they have to bus the passengers?