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Gilbert B Norman
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There are several presidential ranking surveys out there, such as this one that rates Joe at 14th best - and Trump 1.0 (first term) at 45, or dead last.

But the "Gold Standard" of these surveys, to me, is that compiled by CSPAN - and the one I have often cited in postings around here. That survey was last compiled during 2021. It, of course, did not rank Joe, but ranked Trump 1.0 at 41 out of 44.

This 2025 survey was expected to be completed by now and including a ranking of Joe's term and of course not including Trump 2.0.

So CSPAN; "where art thou?"
 
Ocala Mike
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"Upon consultation with our survey's advisory team of historians, C-SPAN has decided to postpone this cycle's presidential leadership survey," Robin Newton, C-SPAN's media relations specialist, told Business Insider. "The consensus is that with a former president returning to office, conducting the survey now would turn it from historical analysis to punditry."
 
Gilbert B Norman
Member # 1541
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First, I must wonder why, when I was in Berlin during this past October, I didn't walk into Axel Springer's office (BI's owner and not that far from my hotel) and tell them what a pile of clickbait you put out over in "The States".

It's simply too bad that the "Gold Standard" ranking survey will not be published anytime soon - possibly not until Trump leaves office.

To me, Joe does not deserve anything close to 14th; I'd put him down in the fourth quartile considering he had no business seeking a second term, especially when during his '20 campaign, he said he was only going to serve one term with his primary mission of "unifying us". Instead he cranked up the "Liberal Machine" with the "Inflation Reduction Act" to pacify Bernie, Liz, and AOC - and topped all that off by seeking a second term.

Likewise, I do not hold that Trump was the worst of 45 (he's "down there", though), after all, he did deliver a strong economy during his "1,0" (should a nonconsecutive term be considered Second Term, or Second Presidency? Therefore the Newspeak of 1.0 and 2.0 should best suffice). I somehow think, along with the polled CSPAN historians, that James Buchannon gets the booby prize. History has established that he was a "Nero fiddled while Rome burned" president as the Civil War started.
 



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