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According to news sources, Amtrak and NJT traffic into/outof New York Penn have been shut down due to an "electrical problem". Path trains and busses are honoring Amtrak and NJT tickets.

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Rodger...no where near where the action isn't

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New York Times coverage; oh and be sure to note the Reporter's name!!!!

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/12/23/train-service-to-penn-station-shut-down/?hp

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Yup, that's publisher Arthur Ochs Sulzberger's 28-year-old kid. He has been on the job only a year and seems to have won wide respect from his fellow journos. There is some mock grousing that he is too good-looking (the ladies do say they think he's hot). Twenty or thirty years from now, if the family still owns the Times, he'll probably be the publisher.
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Now NOW Mr. Kisor, we know there is NO nepotism at The Times!!!

Yup, and tomorrow the sun will rise in the West. [Wink] [Wink]

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Ah well. NJT's continued abuse of this part of the corridor takes its toll. The number of trains that this corridor hosts was never built for them (23 per hour peak directions; no way the ARC Tunnel project's going to allow that to rise to 46 TPH).

Not even viable (thanks to the unfinished "Waterfront Connection" and some underinvestment in NJT's Arrow IIIs, never mind the lack of cross-qualifications for engineers) to run all NEC trains to Hoboken Terminal as an alternative...(AEM-7s and Acelas could physically run there, since it is now fully electrified, but the low platforms mean that you'll be jumping out of your Acela or waiting to clamber down the two emergency staircases)

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My wife (aka Miss Mary) heard on some TV show that the host was grousing as a planned train trip 'north' was delayed/canceled due to problems in NYP.

Now in B&O days, this would not be a problem. Just take the B&O motorcoach from your downtown location and over their ferry to Jersey City. There your parlor car seat on the Royal Blue awaits you.

Interesting idea, Irishchief, for NEC trains to use Hoboken as an alternate. It is encouraging that Hoboken terminal is undergoing renovations. Anyone have details? I am looking forward to a NJT trip into the city via that terminal and the connecting ferry. But I believe that will wait until summertime. For now, we'll settle for Mid-town Direct service.

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It's all over volks; the outage started 845A and was restored 1130A.

Associated Press courtesy Google News

Here is where for Mr. Palmland, the journey would begin:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nypl/3109784153/

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From the New York Times article:

"The cause of the problem has not been made public. Amtrak officials could not be reached for comment."

I'm glad Amtrak is on the ball! And on one of the busiest travel weeks of the year.....

(Fireproof coat ON [Wink] )

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people had to wait in the station for 3 whole hours. Gee I really feel for them. Maybe they should have gone over to the airports and waited 3 days which seems to be the average at National here.
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I don't think the outage was weather related, but who knows.

Re Hoboken Terminal: Fine by me if Amtrak could get it in its system, it's a very nice terminal! I was there a few years ago, taking a very short trip on a NJ Waterways ferry to Hoboken South (which is rather close to the train terminal), walked around quite a bit, and had a lovely early lunch in an upscale little Latino place I gather was lots more expensive for dinner). Great little terminal, even without renovation. I hope they don't spoil any of the loveliness in renovating; there was a wonderful ceiling mural, as I recall. If you do take the ferry, Palmland, make sure you take it Hoboken SOUTH, which I took from downtown (place along Hudson near World Trade Center site). I believe there is another ferry stop--and it may be the only stop to which the ferry from Midtown goes, because I know there was some reason I went downtown to catch the ferry--anyway, that stop is in a different part of Hoboken.

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GBN - Great photo. How do you find this stuff? I believe Columbus Circle is where we caught the B&O bus on one of the trips I vaguely recall. I think I was an unwilling helper on my mother's shopping expedition c. 1954. Most B&O excursions for us ended in their nice Phila terminal - I think it was 24th and Chestnut.
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quote:
Originally posted by palmland:
My wife (aka Miss Mary) heard on some TV show that the host was grousing as a planned train trip 'north' was delayed/canceled due to problems in NYP.

Now in B&O days, this would not be a problem. Just take the B&O motorcoach from your downtown location and over their ferry to Jersey City. There your parlor car seat on the Royal Blue awaits you.

Pity the B&O quit that service in 1957. The concept of "competition" still lived back then, albeit on its last legs thanks to the then-new role of government in transportation.
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Interesting idea, Irishchief, for NEC trains to use Hoboken as an alternate. It is encouraging that Hoboken terminal is undergoing renovations. Anyone have details? I am looking forward to a NJT trip into the city via that terminal and the connecting ferry. But I believe that will wait until summertime. For now, we'll settle for Mid-town Direct service.
Work on the terminal is proceeding slowly. There was a plan some years ago to convert the low platforms to high (which would be better for the current rolling stock what with the retirement of, or in some cases new lease on life for the low-door Comet I cars), but it looks like that's been put back on the shelf, what with the renewed focus on the overpriced ARC race to the bottom project.

As for the ferry slips, this is the latest news on that project. IINM, only the lower level gangways are being rehabilitated (with no access allowed to the upper gangways; NJT has some offices up there)...since NY Waterway's ferryboats have only one level anyhow, that would be sufficient for them; don't expect anything like the larger ferries that used to run there to make a comeback. (NY Waterway still serves Hoboken Terminal, BTW, but they depart from the former Immigrant/Pullman building as they've done since the reinstatement of ferry service back in 1989.)

Of course, as for the NEC (former PRR half) itself, the NYC area terminus of that railroad used to be Exchange Place Terminal, still active up until 11/17/61 (e.g. for commuter trains such as The Broker). NJT can still divert their trains to Hoboken Terminal, but there is no alternative for the NEC now aside from the very slow Waterfront Connection...(although hindsight is 20/20, one could still wonder what might have been if the Metroliners had been built ten years earlier; such service towards the Wall Street area is always food for thought)

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IF the old man was "Punch" and the son is "Pinch" what is the kid's name? "Poke?"
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