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David Gunn was batting for Amtrak on Lou Diobbs Moneyline last night, putting forward a reasoned case and asking for increased funding of $2billion a year over 5 years for infrastructure repairs and improvements etc. The CNN quick poll asked the viewers for their opinion on whether Amtrak should get $2 billion a year and it was 65% YES, 35% NO. This guy seems the best thing to have happened to Amtrak for a very long time.
CK Member # 589
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I believe that David Gunn, along with proper funding, are the keys to whether Amtrak can survive. If Gunn was to leave before he is able to stabilize Amtrak, I think the "writing would be on the walls" that passenger rail service would soon be a thing of the past. I encourage members to go to the CNN website and vote on the "support Amtrak" question. It's up to 82% "Yes" with over 2,000 votes counted.
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Eric Member # 674
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Final votes are: 84% in favor of increased funding 16% against increased funding Over 3500 votes!
reggierail Member # 26
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Where the Hell are the politicians ears with this large a percentage of people wanting rail transportation as an option to flying or driving.
Reggie
20th Century Member # 2196
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That's encouraging! I know dealings in Congress are worked out in a compromise. BUT when it comes to Amtrak getting a subsidy they always get the short end of the stick.
tubaallen Member # 2057
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I posted this at another forum:
The only thing I wonder about though, is whether or not that result is skewed. I mean think about it, who is making the most effort to go and post? Railfans, wouldn't you think? I mean I don't know, but I think that this statistic may not represent the full general population. I think that the majority of the population would still favor the funding, but I don't know if it is really that high of a percentage. Anyone agree or disagree?
20th Century Member # 2196
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tubaallen: I thought of that also. I hope it is more of a random sample. That would have significance. But I guess that can't be determined. Amtrak certainly needs more vocal support from a good cross section of our population. I dread the thought of relying solely on air travel. Choices should be afforded us with having a dedicated and supported national rail system.
Mr. Toy Member # 311
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I think the results are somewhat skewed. NARP put out a general e-mail to its members asking them to vote. But I should add that such tactics are not unique to NARP.
Still, the more scientific polls have shown numbers almost as high (in the 60-70% range) so I don't think all of the voters in the Moneyline poll were railfans.
------------------ Trust God, love your neighbor, and never mistake opinion for truth. -Mr. Toy
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Mr. Toy, It's funny to see you use the words "scientific" and "poll" in the same sentence. That would be an oxymoron.
20th Century Member # 2196
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Mr. Toy: Thanks for that info. Let's hope!
tubaallen Member # 2057
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20th Century:
Don't get me wrong! I hope I'm wrong too! I would love for the gov't to get a slap in the face with the vast majority of it's citizens telling them they want Amtrak. I am just not sure that's the case, unfortunately.
Mr Toy:
I hope you're right. If that is the case, then if the gov't ever takes a look at those numbers, maybe they'll start to change their tactics.
And The Chief:
I disagree...those words are not oxymorons. A poll (if done correctly) is social scientific. If it is done in the right matter, it proves whether the majority of people support the item or not.
efin98 Member # 1943
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I see it as one of two things: the people finally voiced their opinons on national TV or that railfans finally got together and made a valient effort to turn the tables on naysayers. I hope the former is true, that way it sends a message to Congressmen that we want to save our rail service. Either way the fact that CNN gave a damn about our opinons on the subject is a victory.
The Chief Member # 2172
posted tuballen writes,(if a poll) done in the right matter (sic) it proves whether the majority of people support the item or not. to which The Chief replies if you mean if a poll is done in the right manner, it may indicate who favors, and who dislikes, depending on how the question(s) are asked. There are compound problems with most polls used today, so a lot of us are skeptical of all polls' veracity. http://www.gothamgazette.com/commentary/56.ross.shtml
tubaallen Member # 2057
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The Chief:
Sorry for the misspelling, I think that is what I meant to say. And yes, you're right, there are some schlocky polls out there, but I just wanted to argue that it is possible to have a scientific poll.
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