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NARP reports in the January 31st Hotline that Beach Grove put two Superliner sleepers back into service on the 30th. Hooray! http://www.narprail.org/hot280.htm (about half way down the page)
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Eric Member # 674
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Hey Mr. Toy, Great news! I'd like to say they are SI cars. In addition to being repaired/overhauled, they were also given new decals in the passenger-car style of the Phase V (IVb or VI, depending on who you ask!) paint (like some of the Amfleets have now, after they gave up on the booger paint). The Ph. IV stripes are used, but the blue is apparently a little bit more teal-colored. There is also a red stripe running along the bottom of the car, like the new P42s carry. The Amtrak logo is also featured on the sides of the cars. I guess the whole Superliner fleet will get these decals someday, but for now there are just two. One of the cars is the 32053 (SI?), but I'm not sure of the other.
tubaallen Member # 2057
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Any pictures anyone?
Geoff Mayo Member # 153
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I've racked my brains on this one... what are SI cars?
Thanks.
Geoff M.
Gilbert B Norman Member # 1541
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S-I Superliner I's S-II Superliner II's
The cars rebuilt are S-I's 32032 and 32053, both wrecked at Wendover 9-13-01. One was in consist of #5(2nd) which would mean, if all goes according to plan" that car would be in #6(5th).
For the life of me, can't figure out why Amtrak needs a Phase 6 paint scheme!
Geoff Mayo Member # 153
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Doh! I should have realised it was that simple.
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dilly Member # 1427
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I'm not a paint-job fanatic (I couldn't give a rat's ass what "phase" a car or locomotive is in). But I actually prefer the new, simpler design.
I've always felt that scrawling "Superliner" or "Viewliner" on the cars makes them look like a cheesy thrill ride at an amusement park -- in other words, not the sort of thing that would inspire confidence in a nation that doesn't take rail travel seriously in the first place.
The understated new look is cleaner. More classic. Just like yours truly, of course.
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Cthetrains Member # 2148
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as long as they don't revert back to those 'sardine-can' commuter tubes for the long distance rides, I'm with dilly, they need to pick one and keep it, the paint doesn't necessarily have that much to do with their attraction of business
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The Chief Member # 2172
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trainman1 Member # 1392
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quote:Originally posted by dilly: I've always felt that scrawling "Superliner" or "Viewliner" on the cars makes them look like a cheesy thrill ride at an amusement park -- in other words, not the sort of thing that would inspire confidence in a nation that doesn't take rail travel seriously in the first place.
Back in the 1980s, Eastern Airlines had the tails of its Boeing 757 airplanes painted with a big "757," which is the rough equivalent of the "Superliner" lettering. And then there's the Southwest Airlines plane that's painted like Shamu...killer whales aren't known for having the ability to fly.
That said, since I've never liked the more recent (Phase IV) version of the "Superliner" lettering, I agree that the cars would look better without it.
20th Century Member # 2196
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Trainman 1: Southwest Airlines is a "killer whale". It's killing off its larger competitors and promoting "cattle car flying" which is becoming worse and more contagious among the airlines because their market is willing to tolerate that uncivilized mode of travel for a cheaper fare. Too bad. That's why I always enjoy the space on a train.
Mr. Toy Member # 311
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quote:Originally posted by dilly: I've always felt that scrawling "Superliner" or "Viewliner" on the cars makes them look like a cheesy thrill ride at an amusement park --
Funny, that's what I always felt about the Phase III "Superliner" chunky script lettering.
quote:The understated new look is cleaner. More classic. Just like yours truly, of course.
And that's what I thought about the Phase IV "Superliner" lettering, more elegant than Phase III. Its wierd how people interpret the same things in different ways.
------------------ Trust God, love your neighbor, and never mistake opinion for truth. -Mr. Toy
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Amtrak207 Member # 1307
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quote:Originally posted by Cthetrains: as long as they don't revert back to those 'sardine-can' commuter tubes for the long distance rides, I'm with dilly, they need to pick one and keep it, the paint doesn't necessarily have that much to do with their attraction of business
Actually, that pretty much sums up Empire Corridor service. Also, there must be more than a few Amfleet II cars out of service, because they do use them when they're what rolls. Today's 48 had re-re-repainted short distance coach 82044 and a Horizon lounge car. I think the crews were thankful. This one actually had a diner.
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vincen47 Member # 2201
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Soooo.....Is this an "offical" paint scheme?
The new Superliner ph. V?
I'm a fan of the Ph. IV scheme on the superliners, but this one doesn't look that bad. I guess it all depends on the equipment. I never cared for the Genesis locomotives until I saw them under the Ph. V paint.
It seems that about the time they get all the equipment painted into a new scheme, they change it again. I personally like the look of a matching passenger set. I suppose though, you can easily date a photo of a trainset based on the paint schemes. (ph. III, III/IV, IV, and now IV/V.) However, I'm still seeing P42's in Ph. III....I guess they don't want to be boring.
Still, I'm happy to see equipment back on the tracks.
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vincen47 Member # 2201
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I'm sorry. "official" -wish they had spell check!
Eric Member # 674
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Vincen47, There has been an unofficial consensus that the new Superliner paint scheme is called "Phase IVb" (right, Chris? ), as it has the original phase IV stripes, but has been changed with the addition of the Amtrak logo and red safety stripe near the bottom of the cars. It's strange that you liked the Genesis AFTER the Ph. V paint. Most people HATED them with the new paint! Hopefully we'll have this mostly-uniform fleet long enough to enjoy. It's nice to see a matched set of units and passenger cars. And even the mail and express cars are in a similar scheme these days. You're right though- in the end it's just good to get the equipment back on the tracks. I get caught up a lot in paint schemes and sometimes have to take a second to realize that the equipment IS back and (hopefully) helping the bottom line!
{By the way- there is an "Edit" feature to all posts which you can click on to change any wording that you would like (on your own messages), so even though there isn't a spell check, you can still change it if you find a mistake!}
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vincen47 Member # 2201
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Thanks for the info, Eric.
Come to think of it, "Ph. IVb" is also used to describe some variations of the express boxcars, right?
I'll be sure to use the edit feature from now on!
Eric Member # 674
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"Come to think of it, "Ph. IVb" is also used to describe some variations of the express boxcars, right?"
I don't doubt it! There seem to be at least five different schemes (and variations) out there. Are they also referred to as phases I through V on an entirely different chart than the locomotives!?
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), as it has the original phase IV stripes, but has been changed with the addition of the Amtrak logo and red safety stripe near the bottom of the cars.