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First Mr. Nicholson, in the interest of efficiency, the link can be trimmed from the ? following the html tag as that relates to the search at The Times, and many others as well, site. The following shortened link will return the content:
Secondly, as one who used Old Penn on enough occasion as a paying passenger, it was a dilapidated dump, and I wholly concur with the article. The "flying Saucer" ticket arcade was a joke. It was simply a means to free the former ticket cages for concessions and have the space diagrams available to an agent by closed circuit TV (and it wasn't HD) of what was normally held on a carousel. Making off line, or even return, reservations was unchanged from the "we'll have to wire for that space; come back in two or three days" way of doing things. I can recall standing around for an hour while they rounded up the wires for a bit of a diverse trip NY-Marion, IA (NY-PRR/RFP-Rich; Rich-C&O-Cin; Cin-L&N-Mem; Mem-IC-Chi; Chi-MILW-Marion) during 1962; what an ordeal added to by my Father's litany of "why don't you just fly like everybody else does?".
Aside from "half baked" cleaning of the walls "man high", the skylights had to be painted over during WWII, but do you think when the war was over, did anyone ever clean them off?
Sacrilege no, factual yes.
But with the above being said, I do wish to thank you for locating that material. Even if Gray Lady proclaims that she has "All the News That's Fit to Print", for reasons known only to her, such was not "fit" for the Chicago Edition. I cannot find it in either Yesterday's or Today's paper.
RRRICH Member # 1418
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Jerome & Gil -- every time someone posts a link to the New York Times on this site, I read the link, but when I go back to the Train Web thread, neither names of contributors or anything in the bottom panel after "From:..........." shows up. To get back on track (sorry for the pun!), I have to log out, then open Train Web again.
MargaretSPfan Member # 3632
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Jerone --- Thank you very much for that link to that fascinating article. I had no idea that Penn Station had been so mistreated and despoiled. But that despoliation was no justification for its destruction. I never saw it. I grieve for Penn Station and for all the glorious buildings that have been torn down -- -- in the name of "progress" or because the monies to preserve them could not be found. ( Gee --somehow there always seems to be no problem in finding gigantic amounts of money for Death & Destruction, Inc. -- aka war -- but rarely can anyone find even pennies to preserve magnificent old buildings.) Sigh.....
I never saw the original Penn Station: I was 15 when it was demolished and I made my first trip to New York ib 1971 when I was 21. Maybe I'll see the new one before I die of old age?
sojourner Member # 3134
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Tearing down Penn Station one of the five worst days in NYC history.
Gilbert B Norman Member # 1541
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Ms. Sojourner;
1) 9/11 2) "Drop Dead" 3) ? 4) ? 5) Demolition Old Penn
Otherwise, here might be a runaround of The Times' paywall and allow free reading of the famous Oct 30, 1963 editorial regarding Old Penn.
Jerome Nicholson Member # 3116
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quote:Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman: Ms. Sojourner;
1) 9/11 2) "Drop Dead" 3) ? 4) ? 5) Demolition Old Penn
Otherwise, here might be a runaround of The Times' paywall and allow free reading of the famous Oct 30, 1963 editorial regarding Old Penn.
(3) The 1863 Draft Riots
(4) the 1929 Stock Market Crash.
You might squeeze in the 1911 Triangle Factory Fire somewhere in there. Anyone else?
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