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Henry Kisor
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From Media Relations today:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 13, 2012

ATK-12-133
Contact: Media Relations, Amtrak
202 906.3860

AMTRAK ADVANCES PLANS TO ACQUIRE NEW
HIGH-SPEED TRAIN SETS FOR NORTHEAST CORRIDOR
Next-generation equipment best option to meet growing ridership demand

WASHINGTON – In order to better meet strong and growing ridership demand on the Northeast Corridor (NEC), Amtrak is advancing plans to acquire new next-generation high-speed train sets and ending its plans to purchase 40 additional high-speed passenger cars to add to the existing Acela Express fleet.

In early 2013, Amtrak will issue a Request for Information (RFI) to formally start the process that will replace the existing 20 Acela Express train sets and add additional train sets to expand seating capacity and provide for more frequent high-speed service on the NEC.

“Moving directly to new high-speed train sets is the best option to create more seating capacity, permit higher speeds, and maximize customer comfort all while improving equipment reliability and reducing operating costs,” said President and CEO Joe Boardman.

He explained that the previous plan to add 40 new passenger cars with newer technology to the older Acela train sets was a stop-gap measure, posed technical challenges and was determined not to be cost effective and insufficient to handle new ridership growth projections.

Boardman made the announcement before a Congressional committee saying that in the past two years Amtrak has moved forward a number of major proposals designed to address the NEC’s growth and development needs.

The proposals are detailed in the Amtrak Vision for the Northeast Corridor 2012 Update Report. First, is the NEC Upgrade Program to bring the corridor up to a state of good repair, add additional capacity to allow limited service growth, and make targeted trip-time improvements for all existing intercity, commuter and freight services. Among the elements is the Gateway Program to build vital track, tunnel and station capacity into the heart of Manhattan to support Amtrak and commuter rail growth.

Second, is the next-generation high-speed rail program to provide America’s economic, political and cultural capitals in the Northeast with the world-class 220 mph high-speed service the region deserves. With possible operating profits over a billion dollars annually and ridership well into 40 million riders a year upon full build-out, Amtrak expects that private capital, probably in the form of a public-private partnership, could play a significant role in this project.

Boardman said the international experience with high-speed rail projects is that “only after the public sector has allocated significant funding and committed itself to a project of this magnitude that the private sector is willing to enter the deal and deliver value for money.” Adding that, “[o]nce these services are generate revenue streams, these projects can and will attract private funding that can help repay initial capital costs.”

He went on to say he is certain Amtrak has been a good steward of the NEC noting that he is “confident that we have mapped out a workable plan, and that our search for a truly regional solution to the challenges of capacity will be successful.”

In FY 2012, Amtrak set a national ridership record of 31.2 million passengers, including a new record of 11.4 million riders on its Northeast Corridor services. In addition, the introduction of high-speed Acela Express service in 2000 has transformed the air-rail market in the Northeast. Today, Amtrak carries three passengers for every one airline passenger between New York and Washington, and carries more passengers between New York and Boston than all the airlines combined—making Amtrak not simply an alternative, but a preferred choice.

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Gotta say; "gutsy" call for a publicly funded agency.

Sure, all in a day's work for folk with names like Bezos, Jobs, and Zuckerberg; does Boardman wish to be added to those folk who "bet the ranch" on a dream?

Somebody in Congress, even if Hillary wins in '16 and brings in with her a House Democratic majority (and banishes the remains of the Tea Party to Boston Harbor, or wherever) will still start to question why they are retiring equipment after twenty years of service life? That's kind of like trading in a car every two years, such as was done during the '50's.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gilbert B Norman:
why they are retiring equipment after twenty years of service life? That's kind of like trading in a car every two years, such as was done during the '50's.

Twelve years according to Wikipedia. But yes, why replace so soon - or is that just a typo?

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Makes me wonder how the revenue generated by this investment might compare to some new Superliner sleepers, generating $10,000 incremental revenue per trip and running mostly full.
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Bloomberg has now circulated this story:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-12-13/amtrak-plans-to-replace-all-high-speed-acela-trains

Not much additional information beyond the press release.

Mr. Mayo, even under "best case", the new Acelas will not turn a revenue wheel until 2020; hence 20 years from Acela inauguration during Y2K, Regarding my reference to autos, acquiring a new one back in the 50's was about like acquiring a new "smart phone' seems to be nowadays. New autos for me, well not every two (as it was with my Father) but lets try every seven. A new phone, well for one who has not touched his Jitterbug phone during the current billing cycle that started December 4, how important does that thing appear to be in my life?

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Maybe the 'old' Acela fleet can move to California. Surely the HSR project work will be well under way by 2020. I think this is where you put 'LOL'.

Hasn't there been an issue with Acela maintenance costs because it was one of a kind new technology? If so, that would be a good reason to dump it for proven HSR equipment from Europe or Asia (no doubt assembled in the U.S.)

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