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Very senseless murder. Highlights a problem with violence on the left, but that should go without saying.
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Wholly concur, Mr. Helfner, especially since I'm likely considered to be one of the "lefties" around here.
Now that there is a suspect in custody, I'm certain that his political views, along with his sanity level, will be in the public record and "we the people" will be able to determine how "left" he actually is.
But when Gov. Cox, at one of his media briefings noted "and by the way, we have the death penalty here in Utah". All I could think was "let them use it".
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What it highlights are the problems with social media, guns, and crazy gen-z'ers. Political violence, left or right (the scoreboard is actually tilted more one way than the other) is abhorrent.
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"highlights violence on the left". Tons and tons of violence has been committed by right-wingers over the years. Lets start with the biggest terrorist attack on US soil before 9/11, and still the largest domestic terrorist attack--Oklahoma City. Then lets move on to Ruby Ridge. Many, many abortion clinics. Dylan roof, white supremacist in south carolina killed many blacks. El Paso Walmart white supremacist picked walmart because many mexicans shopped there. I could go on and on.
The trump administration promotes hate. Trump himself has tweeted images of him beating up biden.
I say all this as an independent, so also say "nice try" to anyone who calls me a left-winger.
Im so sick of MAGA and trumpers only showing one side of the story. Also sick of all this worshipping of charlie kirk. He was a racist, period. Did he deserve to be shot? of course not. But hes no hero to anyone outside of MAGA.
The funny thing is kirk said he stood for freedom, as do MAGAS, so they say. But if one says anything negative about kirk-they lose their job. One should be able to say they disagree with what kirk stood for and not lose their job. Its pathetic.
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quote:Originally posted by MontanaJim: The funny thing is kirk said he stood for freedom, as do MAGAS, so they say. But if one says anything negative about kirk-they lose their job. One should be able to say they disagree with what kirk stood for and not lose their job. Its pathetic.
Let's try this one again: For most (all?) of these people that lost their jobs, it was not for saying negative things about what Kirk stood for, but for publicly glorifying his killing. I am not going to try to deal with the rest of what you said other than to say I have not noticed anyone saying "great job" or other positive things about those committing any of these acts you lay on "right wing extremists".
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quote:Tons and tons of violence has been committed by right-wingers over the years. Lets start with the biggest terrorist attack on US soil before 9/11, and still the largest domestic terrorist attack—Oklahoma City …
Someone does not know how to tell the truth. Timothy McVeigh was heavily influenced by The Turner Diaries, which is a publication of the left-wing (now defunct) National Alliance (yes, neo-Nazism is left wing). He was also against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is certainly a left-wing stance.
quote:Many, many abortion clinics. Dylan (sic) roof, white supremacist in south carolina killed many blacks
Dylann Roof photographed himself burning a US flag. That is the act of a left winger.
As for abortion clinic bombings, the official number stands at 42 since 1977. But that comes from all left-wing sources, so credibility is at stake.
quote:The trump administration promotes hate. Trump himself has tweeted images of him beating up biden
Wow, that’s just one of the biggest lies I have ever read. Not to mention Trump has not been on Twitter (now X) since 2021 when their former owners banned him on the behest of Michelle Obama. And in fact, it was Biden who threatened to beat up Trump, all on camera! so congratulations on getting history completely backwards.
quote:I say all this as an independent, so also say “nice try” to anyone who calls me a left-winger
LOL, being independent does not mean you are not a left-winger. Look at Bernie Sanders just for one example. I’m an independent myself, but I am no left-winger.
quote:Also sick of all this worshipping of charlie kirk. He was a racist, period
Provide one shred of evidence of the late Mr. Kirk’s racism. Also provide any evidence of worship of the late Mr. Kirk.
Now why did you come on here just to stink up my thread? How old are you; are you over 30 at least? And should we alert the FBI about you?
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Earlier at the topic, I said I'm probably considered a "leftie" by some around here. Here's my Presidential voting record - 8D, 7R, 1I, that I'm happy to share (6 Win, 10 Loss):
'64 LBJ (D) '68 Humphrey (D) '72 Nixon (R) '76 Ford (R) '80 John Anderson (I) '84 Reagan (R) '88 Bush (R) '92 Bush (R) '96 Bill (D) '2K Gore (D) '04 Kerry (D) '08 McCain (R) '12 Romney (R) '16 Hillary (D) '20 Joe (D) '24 Kamala (D)
I grew up in a solid Republican household (Greenwich CT) with my Mother and Father voting for the likes of Landon, Wilkie, Dewey, Ike, Nixon, Goldwater, but when relocating to Illinois after graduating from U of Ill '70 and going to work for the MILW, I guess I have sort of shifted Democratic.
My Sister, shall we say, went the other way. Still residing "at the house" in Greenwich, she was solid Democrat through college (Smith, Columbia) but today is "solid Trump" ("amongst our greatest presidents"). She "broadcasts it" so I don't think I'm out of line to note it here.
But, even though I do not hold many if any of Mr. Kirk's views, the assassination was simply terrible. I can only hope the suspect, who is innocent until found guilty, gets what he deserves, and in Utah, that could be, well....
And finally, as of last evening, the video of the assassination remained available at Youtube. I watched, but didn't need to.
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There is just an insidious current to comments following the form of “The assassination was terrible but”, as we can see, even here. I hope most here can agree with that, since I see that I will not have unanimity.
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