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Gilbert B Norman
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....the Ted Cruz hit list.

https://www.tedcruz.org/five-for-freedom-summary/

Mature and respectful discussion, please. Lest we forget at this site what the originator is empowered to do.

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Maybe the fact that Amtrak is not on the list, he just overlooked it?
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Gaffe track:

http://a.msn.com/r/2/CCf4HS

Scroll down for "Senator Ted's"

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Each of those 5 departments do not have the constitutional authority to exist and need to be eliminated.
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Mr. Smith, where does the US Constitution specifically allow or prohibit any Department of the Executive branch "to be or not to be"? They were all established by enacted legislation to effect efficient administration of powers that the Constitution allows to the Federal government such as defend the country, impose taxes (even if it took a specific Amendment to ensure the allowance of the most prolific one of such), enter into treaties, spend $$$, et magna alia.
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218+51+1

Some 218 and 51 decided for each of those agencies, and a 1 signed the legislation into law.

IF Mr Cruz is elected, and IF he can muster the political capital to have 218 and 51 eliminate those agencies, it will happen.

Otherwise, this is political theater which may culminate in a strength of urination evaluation.

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Article 1, Section 8 of our Constitution clearly delineates what the federal government can do. And Amendment 10 re-enforces that Section.
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I'm not going to argue Constitutional law. There are others far better equipped to do so.

I will simply say ... any legislative action requires willpower, political capital, and votes in two houses of Congress. If Mr Cruz wins and has all 3 of those, he will get what he wants. If not, he won't.

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Cruz, as President, can take his case directly to the USSC, after Ginsberg is replaced with someone that respects our Constitution and the wording contained within that document. Senator Cruz is VERY familiar with arguing his case before the USSC.
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Please show me in the law where a President can initiate a Supreme Court original action.

I sure do not see that in Article III, Section 2.

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I doubt if too many Cruz supporters will be happy with this Wall Street Journal (yes; I said the Journal - not The Times) columnist's thoughts printed today:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ted-cruzs-security-misstep-1447978514

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  • The senator’s supporters adore him because they see him in those moments when he has positioned himself as the hero. To them he is the stalwart forcing a government shutdown over ObamaCare. He’s the brave soul calling to filibuster in defense of gun rights. He’s the one keeping the Senate in lame-duck session to protest Mr. Obama’s unlawful immigration orders.

    Mr. Cruz’s detractors see a man who engineers moments to aggrandize himself at the expense of fellow conservatives. And they see the consequences. They wonder what, exactly, Mr. Cruz has accomplished.

    ObamaCare is still on the books. It took the GOP a year to recover its approval ratings after the shutdown, which helped deny Senate seats to Ed Gillespie in Virginia and Scott Brown in New Hampshire. Mr. Obama’s immigration orders are still on the books. The courts gained a dozen liberal judges, all with lifetime tenure, because the lame-duck maneuver gave Democrats time to cram confirmation votes through. Mr. Cruz’s opportunism tends to benefit one cause: Mr. Cruz.

    Yet getting away with this kind of thing is harder in foreign policy, and the Paris massacre is illustrating that difficulty. For months now, Mr. Cruz has been presenting himself in debates and national forums as hawkish, even as he panders to Mr. Paul’s voters at smaller events. Last month he attended the Republican Liberty Caucus in New Hampshire, where he boasted that the “liberty movement has been integral to our campaign since Day 1,” and touted the endorsement he received from (the isolationist) Ron Paul during his run for the Senate. He enjoyed a standing ovation.

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I think Senator Cruz has secured his spot on the GOP ticket in 2016. Top of the ticket or second in line is what is still to be determined.
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...and Hillary will "whup him".

Over at Open Discussion (possibly where this topic is headed once I give Lori the word) I said Hillary would beat Rubio "decisively, but not landslide". Hillary v. Cruz; Landslide (66/34 or better).

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Article 3 Section 2:
In all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers, and conculs and those in which a State shall be party, The Supreme Court shall have original jurisdiction.

Do you consider the President to be a public minister?

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Mr. Smith, I know and respect (you are just as much a US Citizen as am I), that you have considerable difficulties with SCOTUS decisions such as King v. Burwell (Obamacare), but for a Federal court, District, Appellate, or "The Supremes", to take a position that legislation enacting and funding any Federal agency is contrary to the Article you cite, is simply "too far" - even with the strong conservative representation presently sitting.

President Hillary Clinton, will know that with the Legislative balance, that I believe will be only slightly less conservative than at present, knows she cannot appoint Justices of the "flaming Liberal" varietal - even though the likely retirees during her Administration will be of that genre'.

At least we're not The Vatican around here. That comment arises from Pope John Paul I who checked out 38 days into his papacy - and there are enough conspiracy theorists around that hold "something not natural" happened there.

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Hillary will never be President. Her nomination will motivate a lot of people to show up at the voting booth on November 8, and they will not be her friends...
(unless JEB! is the republican nominee)

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If there is one thing I've learned in my lifetime, it is never say never.

I want either Ms Fiorina or Mr Rubio to head the Republican ticket. Truth be told, I want Ms Fiorina, especially if Mrs Clinton is heading the Democratic ticket. That will at least take the "First woman President" drumbeat off the table.

"First woman President": One thing the Democratic Party knows how to do far better than our Republican Party is play to "bread and circuses." I am utterly convinced that if Mrs Clinton is the nominee, every single billboard in the nation will have HILLARY: First woman President. In addition, every corpse in Chicago will arise from their graves to vote for her.

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quote:
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In addition, every corpse in Chicago will arise from their graves to vote for her.

Mr. Pullman's captioned thought reminds of an amusing incident that occurred some fifteen years ago at our local polling place.

I went to vote with Lucky (1992-2003), my Labrador/Newfoundland mix. While I thought I had him securely tied to a bike rack out front of the school, somehow some way he got loose - and he trots right into the Gym where I was voting.

It didn't take the wisecracks long to start: "well look who's registered to vote", "oh, is this Chicago now?".

Otherwise, he just went over to my voting stand; when done, we went home without any further incident.

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