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So much has come to light through the Hearings to suggest that Incumbent President Trump, directed, participated, and committed acts that could be considered criminal between the Election (Nov 3, 2020) and the Certification (Jan 6, 2021).
If the person so accused was less than a former president, a grand jury would surely hand up indictments. Therefore, there is all too great a chance a former president will stand indicted of Federal crimes.
The partisans (I know many of such) will cheer should they see a "perp walk" (never mind out on bail an hour later), but would this really be "pro bono patria"?
Yes, a message would be sent; no one is "above the law". But the likelihood of such matter being brought to trial to trial is "slim" and a conviction "nonexistent".
Even if an arrest were to be made tomorrow, the defense could easily "drag things" for another two and a half years. At that time, the President will likely be a Republican, who would instantly pardon Trump. Even if that president were to be Trump himself, he could still grant a pardon.
So my best advice; Dems, have your fun with what amounts to a "televised Grand Jury" between now and November, because that's all it will ever amount to.
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Suggest? Not so far. Much of what this illegal committee has scraped together has actually proved the opposite. Never mind the outstanding questions of why both Nancy Pelosi and DC Mayor Muriel Bowser refused Trump’s offer of National Guard troops. If Merrick Garland does somehow use something tenuous at best to concoct a charge particularly when two “impeachments” could not (the second was about January 6, remember), then he is in serious violation of the Constitution.
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If Bragg does it on his phony charge Tuesday, he really demonstrates that the justice system is shattered. Bad idea to have the people believe that the social contract has been broken.
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We have now had 6+ years of "Get Trump" Enough!!! If they had enough real evidence for anything, there would have long since been trials and sentencing. Even the Keystone Kops could do better than this if there was anything real there.
There are plenty of real crimes out there, both political and non political. Go after them and quit wasting resources and time on this stuff.
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Well Messrs. Harris and Helfner, since this topic was last active some eight months ago, the only thing that really has changed is that Joe has not resigned, as I thought he would after delivering the SOTU, and is highly likely to be the Democratic POTUS nominee come next year.
Just when the indictment against Mr. Trump will be handed up is a "who knows", but in the overwhelming Democratic sentiment of New York City, it will.
But the NYPD, with some 34,000 sworn officers that represents a police force that would be the seventh largest army in the world, plus another 16,000 in the NY National Guard that will be "locked and loaded" for deployment, there will be no rerun of Jan 6 (I think Mr. Trump's militiae know that).
But with the inevitable continuances, and with Mr. Trump free on bail (likely confined to the USA with his Passport lifted), the judicial proceedings will drag on through the entire '24 election process ending with a Republican (maybe Mr. Trump himself) moving into 1600. At that time, any judicial proceeding will stop, and Mr. Trump will be given as blanket a pardon as Mr. Nixon was given by President Ford.
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Media reports are too conflicting to draw a conclusion right now. But yes; the public at large is sick to death of the “Get Trump” meme (cue Get Smart theme).
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I have a feeling that the timing of any indictment being handed up is a closely guarded secret. Outside the Judiciary, the NYPD surely has most knowledge. So likely are the logistics to deliver Mr. Trump and his attorneys to New York.
One ritual of the New York judiciary that could well be avoided is the "perp walk" that serves no purpose beyond a display of "we gotcha".
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