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mr williams
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I'm not talking about the proposed major initiatives such as the high-speed routes but local things eg there was talk of a third daily Surfliner to/from either SLO or running right through to SJC or SFO and becoming a "coast daylight" and there was talk of some proposed feasibility survey on bringing back the Pioneer...

(and I'm not even going to mention Las Vegas!!)

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It seems to me, Mr. Williams, that it would make more sense to expand the Surfliners to San Francisco to, in fact, create a new "Coast Daylight". I can't see how Calif. thinks it can build a HSR at 30 to 60 billion, or more. We now are 25-30 billion in the red.

However, California's unfunded obligations (such as retirement for state workers, etc) is more like 500 billion of unfunded liabilities. Does Calif. think it will get a bailout from the Feds?

Richard

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Pretty much any service expansion that does not have backing from a state or regional agency is dead in the water these days......

Although North Carolina is scheduled to launch a new mid-day frequency each direction between Raleigh and Charlotte on June 5.

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David Pressley

Advocating for passenger trains since 1973!

Climbing toward 5,000 posts like the Southwest Chief ascending Raton Pass. Cautiously, not nearly as fast as in the old days, and hoping to avoid premature reroutes.

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From Marriott Courtyard Downtown Denver CO (free computers)--

It should be obvious that any of the proposals for restoring LD trains have been "studied" - and that's that.

I wholly concur with Mr. Presley's thought that if there are to be new routes, there will be Local level funding supporting such. This is simply a continuation by the Obama administration of the Bush administration policy regarding routes.

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If they ever tallied up all the money spent on "studies" usually done by outside consultants. I thought all "the experts" work in government? Like Pres. Bush, Pres. Obama mentioned he wants "To Land on Mars." Face it any improvements to rail service needs to be done at the local and state levels.
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This is a recent article on the problems New York State is having trying to expand or intitiate a HSR route from Alabany to Buffalo and Albany to Montreal.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/rail_chief_quits_over_gov_lies_3fYkyOuWedSGe4P2HektZN

I'm just wondering if a HSR system is put in place shouldn't these trains be on seperate and newer rails?

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