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I would have thought, and as I noted, that Trump would have gotten a five point "sympathy bump" after the assassination attempt, but, according to Newsweek, such does not appear to be the case.
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quote:Donald Trump has not received a poll boost in the first presidential election survey conducted since the failed assassination attempt on Saturday.
The poll, conducted by Morning Consult of 2,045 registered voters on Monday, reveals that Trump is leading Joe Biden by just one percentage point with 46 percent, compared to the president's 45 percent. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points.
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Begs the question as to who Morning Consult polled.
Edit: Axios now saying that Democratic reps are reviving a push to replace Biden.
quote:Democratic members of Congress are reviving a fight over President Biden’s candidacy following a brief respite in the wake of Saturday’s assassination attempt against former President Trump, Axios has learned.
Some lawmakers are uneasy about the Democratic National Committee’s plans to forge ahead with a virtual roll call vote to nominate Biden weeks before the Democratic convention.
“People are back to being angry at Biden and a push to sign on to this letter is going around … the ‘replace Biden’ movement is back,” a House Democrat told Axios. …
The DNC moved toward a virtual vote before the debate in response to Ohio threatening to not put Biden on the ballot because the party’s convention was after their deadline. Ohio changed the rule, but the DNC has pushed forward — arguing that the legislature could in theory reverse itself. …
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Mr. Helfner, I would guess that after, first, the Debate, then followed by the assassination attempt, the Democratic "powers that be" held that Trump was unbeatable, and if Joe wanted to be the sacrifical lamb, let him. Keep the others "fresh for '28".
Now this poll comes out today, suggesting that the "bump" from these two events has either eroded or simply was never there. So now it's time to "bench the past his prime quarterback and reach for an 'up and comer'".
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I noted further up the thread that Nikki Haley had not endorsed Trump when she dropped out, as Ron DeSantis did when he dropped out. During the convention, she gave Trump (in her words) “strong endorsement”.
I would be surprised if Morning Consult was actually able to poll conservative Republicans, who would know who they are and actively avoid them.
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Looks like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries and Adam Schiff are now among the voices calling for Biden’s withdrawal.
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While, as MSNBC reported, Joe has "mild COVID" and is out of sight in Rehoboth to recover, I think much will go on behind the scenes.
If Trump wins by a landslide, which I'm not about to dispute, there goes the "down ballot" for Democrats - and with that, control of at least one House.
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Remember the song from "Little Shop of Horrors," "Suddenly Seymour"? I can't help thinking about a new one called "Conveniently Covid."
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This NBC article conveys a dark and even depressing tone.
quote:… Since a disastrous debate in Atlanta upended the trajectory of his campaign three weeks ago, Biden has again and again attempted to dig in, bucking efforts to dislodge him from power.
But there is now a palpable sense that the ground has shifted underneath him, according to five people with knowledge of the situation, even among some of the president’s most defiant internal backers who now believe the writing is on the wall.
“We’re close to the end,” a person close to Biden said.
That person, who previously doubted Biden would ever step aside, acknowledged that it’s still the president’s decision but joined in the array of Biden allies who say he is nearing a point of no return. …
… A person who spoke with a senior campaign official said a sense of a new reality has fallen over the campaign.
“They’re finally realizing: It’s a ‘when’, not ‘if’,” the person said. …
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I think the most recent for a timeline would be '72 when Thomas Eagleton dropped out as VP from the McGovern ticket and was replaced by Sargant Shriver.
Of course that year the Democrats could just have nominated Yogi the Bear, as they had no chance against Nixon.
McGovern only carried only The District and Massachusetts.
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Very interesting to learn where Mark Halperin landed, Mr. Helfner.
I first learned of Mr Halperin when he was a commentator on a now-cancelled show called "The Circus", which aired on Showtime. With other hosts like Alex Wagner and Jennifer Palmieri, you can guess which way the "slant" leaned.
He left that show on "suspicious grounds" (hands not where should be), and now to learn he is on Newsmax, sure shows $$$$ talk louder than ideology.
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"For those tuning in late", Joe Louis was considered the greatest fighter of his era ('30's-40's). But he "just plain stayed too long"; and had "issues" managing his $$$.
What was sad, but indicative of the times, was that most celebrities who signed up to "entertain the troops", all (White males) were Commissioned Officers. However, Joe Louis, who did same, was only Sgt. Joe Louis.
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You're a great American who has devoted his life to public service.
He's endorsed Kamala; but lest we forget it's just an endorsement. Joe's delegates are now "free agents" and not bound to anyone. Further, if the eventual nominee is to access the some $110M "campaign kitty", it will first have to be returned to the donors (no tax consequences; the contributions were not deductible when made), then the donors can choose to donate those funds to "whoever's" campaign.
So sad it has to end this way.
Finally to Mr. Helfner, Wow, did Mark Halperin ever call it "on mark'. I actually watched him for about 15 min on Newsmax Sunday night. He seemed quite level headed and "balanced".
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Not so sure Biden walked off the stage under his own power or was dragged off the stage by those around him that finally realized he was a sinking ship and these rats did not want to go down with him.
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KDOV can handle a VC-25 (a B-747 that is Air Force One in the vernacular) and if Joe is to return to KADW today, I'm sure that departure will be live covered (with of course the MSNBC and CNN reporters observing Joe one way, and the FOX and Newsmax reporters another).
By the way, when Joe goes to his Wilmington home, KILG cannot accommodate that aircraft, so he "must get by" with a C-32 (a B-757 that the VP, SecState, and SecDef normally use).
Author's note:stationed Dover AFB Nov 65 through Jun 67
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Mr. Harris, I hope, and like to think, that Joe's stable and loyal staff (really, you have to admit that his staff has been loyal, with only two visible defections to date - and one, former CS Ron Klain, came back to be his campaign manager) will be there to guide him through these final 5mo 27da of his presidency. If any "bad boys" try to "pull something", I'm sure the response would be same as if Joe had his faculties, which I fear he no longer has.
Various reports hold that Kamala has sufficient delegates now supporting her (they're not locked in owing to primary victories, lest we forget) to have the nomination. So much for a "back to '52" open convention. I guess the only institution remaining with such is the Roman Catholic Church to select a Pope (think they'd best get ready for just that soon).
Finally, "utter dumb-dumb" had to be Speaker Johnson getting out there saying Joe should resign now. Once again, his staff is experienced and loyal, and for Trump, he would find himself running against a "sitting president", with all the "trappings" of the office, rather than merely a VP, who really hasn't got a job beyond being a "stage prop" at the pleasure of the POTUS.
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Looks like Joe got a C-32 for his flight KDOV to KADW.
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There remains some question as to who is really holding the reins of the country, particularly with Harris on the campaign trail.
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Mr. Helfner, no matter Joe's cognitive state, which along with you, I don't think is very good, he has an extremely loyal staff which, save a Press Secretary (former CS Klain is apparently back in the picture in some capacity), has been on the job since Day 1.
With "123 and a wake up" to go, I think "they'll hold it together".
And disturbing as this thought may be, the election could possibly end up being Former President Trump v. PRESIDENT Harris. Someone having to transition to a new job, while campaigning to keep it, would be unprecedented in our history, and just might be an "institutional overload".
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I've been "trying to think it over" regarding why Joe waited so long to abdicate?
There have been many a report that his cognitive skills were deteriorating even when he was Obama's VP and definitely during the "Trump interregnum" as a private citizen.
To campaign during '20, he "lucked out" as all he needed to do was to make scripted addresses from a TV studio in his home. This resulted in his "razor thin victory", which will be disputed by some "forever".
He sold himself as a one term "bring us together" President. On that objective, he failed miserably. So far as his legislative "achievements", help those financially hurt by COVID?, sure; that's what a government is for. Infrastructure? well, too many politicians swept that under the rug for too long. After all, where's the "photo-op" with a repaired stretch of highway?
Now to the Inflation Reduction Act. What that had to do with its title escapes me. It was really just a "grab bag" for Bernie, Liz, AOC, and The Squad to have what they wanted in return for their '20 and '24 support.
But Joe should have recognized that he "didn't have it" for a full-fledged "can't hide in my studio" campaign against, Donald, Nikki, Ron, or Swamy, and should have withdrawn about when this topic was originated.
Finally, I must wonder how many of "the Democrat Bench" just might be rooting for Trump. After all, Kamala never really had standing with them as she flitted from "Backbench Senator" to unsuccessful Presidential Candidate to "stageprop VP". For if Kamala wins, '28 by custom will be held open to her, so the likes of Amy, AOC, Gavin, Gretchen, Kathy, JB, and Josh, will all have to wait for '32. Several of them could well have "aged out" by then.
Just some "Homestretch thoughts" of mine.
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This Rate The Presidents is not the usual one sponsored by CSPAN that I have cited around here. That poll, which rated Trump as 41st of 44, did not rate Joe as his term was not complete when it was taken.
Now this one cited rates Joe as 14th best of 45, with Trump being last, or worse than Buchannon, who historians hold could have done much more than he did to contain the Civil War.
I highly doubt if Joe's 14th will hold when either this or the CSPAN poll is updated. I also hold that Obama (#7) is in for a dropping from his rather high "perch" that he holds in both polls.
But now to current events, I blame Joe in great part for Kamala's, anywhere between "decisive" and "landslide" defeat (I'll call it the latter should Trump also win the popular vote), he should have stepped away from the '24 nomination as soon as he realized his cognitive skills had diminished to the extent they have. His "corner" was like that of a "no match prizefighter" being told "come on kid, you can do it".
Now another group I blame is the pollsters. Those people have now been wrong, and in turn feeding the public misinformation, for each of the past three presidential elections (yes; Joe won, but by such a slim margin that it gave rise to January 6). This also leads me to wonder if the pollsters each campaign hires were also feeding them misinformation. I further have to wonder how those feeding the public could be telling the media that all seven battleground states could be within a point either way when in fact Trump will win all seven of them?
As I noted at the other active forum topic, the George McGovern quote from the '72 election where Nixon "trounced" him; "the only poll that matters is on November 7"
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A Brazilian poll? Particularly with convicted criminal hard-leftist Lula da Silva in charge of that country?
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Mr. Helfner, to allay your concerns, I have now linked the cited material to another site.
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This Journal columnist, Kimberly Strassel, sure lays the Trump victory/Harris defeat on the media:
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quote:The recriminations are flying, as Barack Obama’s and Joe Biden’s forces go to war over who’s more to blame for Democrats’ humiliating defeat Tuesday. So long as the left is pointing fingers, let it direct a big, fat digit at the outfit that played the biggest role in losing it this election: the U.S. media.
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More "Dump on Joe" - this time, by a columnist writing in The Times:
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quote:Kamala Harris lost the election this week, but I mostly don’t blame her. At least, I don’t blame her because of anything she did recently. Since she became the unofficial nominee in July, she played a difficult hand about as well as she could have, running a disciplined campaign that sought to reassure Americans about the economic issues that trouble them most, in a political environment that was very rough for Democrats and for incumbent parties around the world. But where did that bad hand come from? It was dealt to her by two people: President Biden, who produced a governing record she could not effectively defend or run away from; and herself
With his years in public service foregoing "who knows how many $$$", yes, "he stayed to long at The Fair". This defeat has robbed him of so much, so let him live out his (what I don't think will be too many) final years with a sense of dignity.
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Forgoing? Still has a reported net worth of $10 million (although the green Corvette suggests higher); should be far lower if solely as a career politician with zero private sector experience, which nobody regards as respectable.
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I'm sorry to hold these thoughts regarding a man who has given fifty years to public service, but Joe, you have worked overtime to discredit yourself.
It is going to cost you in the two presidential ratings surveys I have cited around here.
First; the various reports and biographical TV shows regarding your career. One show, a PBS "Frontline" documentary reporting how Obama passed you over during '16 in favor of Hillary, who lost to Trump. While possibly mistaken. I'm sure there was a "deal" in place. That was to offer Hillary a visible Cabinet seat (State certainly qualifies as that) in which she would serve during the first term and with her resignation being accepted early in the second so she would have three years to get ready to run in '16.
Joe, you've been around politics long enough to know what a deal is.
Now it's '20 and you got your crack. Fortunately you did not have to campaign all that vigorously thanks to COVID. You campaigned on a platform of serving one term that would be focused on "bring us together". I for one "bought it" and you got my vote.
Now so far as your agenda;"stimulus" to help persons and businesses hurt by COVID? Sure, that's what a government is for. Infrastructure? you had to; for too many politicians had ignored it for too long. After a repaired highway doesn't make for photo ops, but new trains do.
Regarding your Inflation Reduction Act? What a sellout to Bernie, Liz, AOC, and "the squad". There went any hope you would, say, govern slightly left of center as did Bill, and had she won, Hillary.
Now so far as seeking a second term when you campaigned that you were not, you have known your cognitive skills had badly deteriorated and had no business seeking such. You should know that each party selects their candidate through a primary process and that it was '52 when Ike was selected in a "smoke filled room" which was the end of "the old way".
In short, you should have honored your one term pledge, affirming it during your '23 SOTU, and let the primary process take place. Kamala may or may not been the nominee, but if she got the most delegates, so be it. At least, she or any nominee you chose to "annoint" would have more than 107 days to execute a campaign.
Pardoning Hunter? Let's allow this Journal Editorial to "do the talkin'".
So Joe, I wish you a happy retirement and line up a good ghostwriter for the book deal.
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Frankly, Mr. Norman I disagree with almost everything you say, except what you said about the misnamed "Inflation Reduction Act" and that he should have bowed out after his one term. As to the "slightly left of center", I will admit to being well right of center, but part is because the "center" has moved left significantly over my lifetime>
Biden did not give 50 years of public service. He milked it for his own wealth and that of his family. "Bringing us together?" Probably one of the most divisive terms ever, with the possible exception of Obama.
Yes, I do agree that his cognitive skills had declined, I am just not sure they have gotten as low as those of Kamala and Walz at their best. I did vote for Trump in 16 because I thought he was the less bad, but in 20 and 24 because I considered him a good choice. As an alternative to Harris/Walz, I would have taken whatever the alternative was short of Castro, even if it were Alfred E. Neuman.
Pardoning Hunter? A final slap in the face of the entire justice system and population. I truly fear what he will do or try to do with the remaining slightly over a month he has in office.
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Actually Mr. Harris, we seem to agree on a number of points I immediately addressed.
Now what will be interesting, considering how Joe has badly discredited himself over this past year, namely by failing to face facts that "he no longer had it" and stepped down so the Democrats could also have had a primary process. Maybe, but I think likely not, Kamala would have been victorious. While I doubt if the "Rehoboth Beach conclave" in which Kamala was "anointed" was "smoke filled", that process had been gone since '52, when the Republican Convention was deadlocked and Eisenhower ended up being chosen over Taft behind closed doors.
It will be interesting to see where the two "Rate The Presidents" surveys I've noted around here, will place Joe. One of the surveys by Political Scientists, rated Joe as 14th best of 45 (Trump 45). However, when that survey is next updated, I think Joe will be "in for a big slide".
The other survey of Notable Scholars sponsored by CSPAN had not rated Joe (Trump 41 of 44), but I think when they do, he will be down in that Fourth Quartile.
But for the good of all of us, let's hope that Trump can climb out of the basement with "with a steady hand sailing our ship of state" during his second term.
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Former Watergate lawyer John Dean has spoken out now, claiming that Biden should issue “blanket pardon(s)” to people such as Jack Smith and Robert Mueller as well as any others he would deem to exist on what he calls “Trump’s enemies list” (the fact that he tries to make people think such a thing exists shows that he has been biased for decades).
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Ideally Mr. Helfner, such a pardon to Messrs. Mueller and Smith would, in the name of "national unity", be issued by (no longer Former or Elect) President Trump.
Uh, "not exactly holding my breath" for that to happen.
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Well Joe, it's "28 and a wake up". I'm sorry to share that your presidency has been been quite a disappointment to me.
You were indeed fortunate, considering the reports that your cognitive skills were already in decline, that you did not have to campaign for office, beyond scripted addresses from your home TV studio, during '20, but you campaigned on a "bring us together" platform.
Sorry, but you did anything but.
Enacting legislation to help those hurt by COVID? Of course, but why that legislation could not have included provisions to measure one's eligibility by a MAGI - Modified Adjusted Gross Income - which in this case, should have excluded Capital Gains and Losses. Any such transactions, save Capital Gains Distributions distributed by mutual finds, are lawfully under the control of the taxpayer. This means a taxpayer could sell assets in which he could realize a loss so as to be eligible for Stimulus payments.
Infrastructure? you had to; as I've noted before, too many politicians ignored it for too long.
But anything else you "accomplished", particularly your so named, and mistitled, Inflation Reduction Act was simply a grab bag for the likes of Bernie, Liz, AOC, and The Squad. No doubt, that enactment added to the runaway inflation during your term, that fortunately is now "more or less" under control.
One war in which there were US "boots on the ground" was ended - albeit disastrously - on your watch. But two others, while acknowledging that there are no US "boots" certainly involve US armament, started and it will be up to your predecessor/successor to see if he can bring them, ideally to a close, but at least to a cease fire and "let's talk".
If you had the diplomatic skills of Reagan or GHWB (41), those wars may well not have started, but, even considering during your Senate career and Chair of the Foreign Relations Committee, you evidently did not.
And finally, after your hand-picked successor lost the Election, you pardoned your convicted Son, especially when you were on record that you would not, simply is going to have you down in the cellar when the next rate the presidents survey is compiled.
Even though I voted for someone else (all time presidential voting record; 8D-7R-1I), had somehow you ran, I think I would have voted "Present" on the write-in line.
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ANYONE but Trump. Literally ANYONE. Well maybe except some of trump's "fine" nominees like Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard, Kash Patel, and Pete Hegseth.
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Sure…all the recovering of dignity and prosperity after Biden’s depredations are too much to bear, yes? Never mind rule of law; can’t have that.
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Appearing today in The Journal is this column, with which I think all who participate here will agree:
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quote:Remember when Robert Hur took pity on President Biden and caught hell for it?
For anyone who’s forgotten, Mr. Hur was the special counsel tapped by Attorney General Merrick Garland to investigate Mr. Biden’s pre-presidential handling of classified documents, some of which had been stored in the garage and basement of the president’s Wilmington, Del., home.
Following an inquiry that included more than five hours of interviews with Mr. Biden over two days, Mr. Hur released a 345-page report of his investigation in February. It concluded that Mr. Biden “willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen.” Nevertheless, Mr. Hur determined that “no criminal charges are warranted.” Why? In part because a jury would be unlikely to convict “a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory” and “diminished faculties in advancing age.”
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A Peggy Noonan Journal column which will appear in print December 28:
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quote:We button up the astounding year with the scandal of 2024, which won’t take on its true size and historical significance until some time passes. Its facts—who did what, starting when, how it worked—will be fully reported not by journalists but by historians.
The story is the decline of Joe Biden’s mental acuity, a word we use because it sounds both clinical and polite, and by which we mean the president has been in apparent cognitive decline for some years, perhaps since before taking office, and wasn’t fully up to the job. His family and friends, top White House staff and other administration officials covered it up. Some no doubt thought his presidency was good for the country and some, perhaps, good for them.
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Here is a New YorkTimes review of the book "Original Sin", by CNN reporter Jake Tapper and Axios reporter Alex Thompson.
Obviously, Joe did not read our discussion here to the certain chagrin of any who support Democratic candidates.
For those here who support Trump and other Republicans, June 27, 2024 was the night that handed you control of the entire government.
So far as I'm concerned, when the next presidential rating survey becomes available, Joe will be ranked near the bottom - maybe even behind Trump, who stands @ 41 of 44.
quote:The coverup of Mr. Biden’s mental decline will go down as one of the great scandals of modern politics. By refusing to admit what voters could so clearly see, Democrats denied their party an open primary. Once Mr. Biden imploded, they handed Kamala Harris the nomination without debate.
Addendum May 20: I've now bought the book through Google Play; ebook $16.99
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Mr. Norman, I guess we have to agree to disagree. I considered Biden (or more likely as a front for his puppetmasters) dead last from his first day in office. I have no urge to read Tapper's & Thompson's book. As some of the Brits I used to say, its content information is available at the Bureau of the Blooming Obvious. Conversely, I would put Trump near the top. Yes, he can be obnoxious and operates like a bull in a China Shop, but then a lot of the China in the government shop needs breaking.
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Mr. Harris, as I read your immediate, you consider Joe to be the very worst President (45 of 45 in the forthcoming CSPAN/Notable Scholars survey). You further hold that Trump should be rated in the "top five" displacing one from the present Lincoln, Washington, FDR, TR, and Ike, in the Scholars next survey.
Well, my view is that Joe has definitely "sunk" to the Fourth Quartile (35-45) in that survey (another survey taken at about Mid-Term rated him 14 of 45). So far as Trump being amongst our greatest (First Quartile: 1-11), well, you have my Sister in your corner on that.
I hope you will choose to clarify if I'm misleading, If I'm "way off base", I'll withdraw this posting and offer my sincere apology.
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I have now completed "Original Sin". It's an "easy read" and only 202 pages long.
It's "not nice to Joe" questioning if he were even fit to run during '20. The entire book was succinctly recapped in its final paragraph:
quote:The American people have been lied to before by presidents about the president’s health—FDR, JFK, Ronald Reagan. We don’t know, still, what happened with Donald Trump and his visit to Walter Reed last year. Will you pledge that, if you're re-elected, you will be transparent about your health—” “Yes,” Biden said. “—all facets of your health, with urgency, so that we know—” “Yes, when it occurs, when anything occurs. And anything can happen. Anything can happen…. I have become a great respecter of fate, a great respecter of fate. I have seen too much of it in my family related to accidents alone. And so I guarantee you, I guarantee you, I will be totally transparent in terms of my health and all aspects of my health?"
He was not.
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